Jet for grass field operation
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: BallasallaIsle of Man, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jet for grass field operation
I am looking for a turbine powered aircraft to operate from a grass field which is not a cricket pitch, but is not too rough either. I do have some experiences of a turbine having owned an early simjet which I flew in an aircraft from tarmac. Can anyone recommend an airframe which is robust enough for the undercarriage to withstand grass field operation and in the same vein it would clearly have to be something with a slow approach speed again to lessen landing shocks. I am considering the Composite ARF Eurosport, any thoughts and any other suggestions appreciated?
Thanks and Best Wishes
Joe.
Thanks and Best Wishes
Joe.
#2
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Dunstable, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
I can recomend the L39 and Wren44 combination, take a look at the thread on this forum. Grass field is normal for me too.
RC Airplanes >> Jets >> L39/Wren 44 Pics and video
RC Airplanes >> Jets >> L39/Wren 44 Pics and video
#3
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: SevenoaksKent, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 5,193
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
Hi Joe,
The EuroSport is very well suited to grass. I only ever fly mine off of grass (not a cricket pitch either) and haven't had a problem. Comp-ARF also now supply a heavy duty retract kit which is well suited to grass operation. The last 3 guys who ordered aEuroSport through me opted for these retracts as they all fly from grass too. As for slow landing approaches, with the large delta wing you can find yourself landing at a high angle attack with 50% power and at very slow speeds!
The L39 is great off grass too but is obviously a lot smaller and lighter.
Rgds,
Mark
PS If your "3D_Man" is anything to go by, it has to be the EuroSport
The EuroSport is very well suited to grass. I only ever fly mine off of grass (not a cricket pitch either) and haven't had a problem. Comp-ARF also now supply a heavy duty retract kit which is well suited to grass operation. The last 3 guys who ordered aEuroSport through me opted for these retracts as they all fly from grass too. As for slow landing approaches, with the large delta wing you can find yourself landing at a high angle attack with 50% power and at very slow speeds!
The L39 is great off grass too but is obviously a lot smaller and lighter.
Rgds,
Mark
PS If your "3D_Man" is anything to go by, it has to be the EuroSport
#4
My Feedback: (5)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Sand Springs , OK
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
The Euro will fly off grass with no problems. I have flown mine off grass several times without any issues. I would recommend that if you get the Euro and you plan on flying off grass that you get the intakes. This will help keep the nose wheel from kicking up FOD right into the turbine.
Dave
Dave
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Saalfelden, AUSTRIA
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
Hi!
We fly a Black Shark from [link=http://jetwelt.de]Jetwelt.de[/link] and it works perfekt! We have a Grass-field of about 200mx20m
Greetz
Thomas
We fly a Black Shark from [link=http://jetwelt.de]Jetwelt.de[/link] and it works perfekt! We have a Grass-field of about 200mx20m
Greetz
Thomas
#7
RE: Jet for grass field operation
I have successfully flown the following jets off a 700 ft grass runway ( elev. 4000ft )
BVM BobCat PST powered
PCM AV8R PST powered
KingCat JetCat P160 powered
Eurofighter Sport P160 powered
Kangaroo RAM powered
Current grass capable products in the works:
PCM DV8R JetCat P80 power
BTE Reaction 54 PST power
Regards
Dean Wichmann
www.helijet.ca
BVM BobCat PST powered
PCM AV8R PST powered
KingCat JetCat P160 powered
Eurofighter Sport P160 powered
Kangaroo RAM powered
Current grass capable products in the works:
PCM DV8R JetCat P80 power
BTE Reaction 54 PST power
Regards
Dean Wichmann
www.helijet.ca
#9
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Curitiba, Parana, BRAZIL
Posts: 4,289
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes
on
11 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
It is hard to find in present days a turbine powered model that can't handle a grass strip, as long as
it has a good landing gear. Anyway any jet that has a lower wing loading, can minimize the eventual gear damage, good choices are Euro, Kingcat, Reaper, Roo types, etc...
Rgds, Enrique
it has a good landing gear. Anyway any jet that has a lower wing loading, can minimize the eventual gear damage, good choices are Euro, Kingcat, Reaper, Roo types, etc...
Rgds, Enrique
#10
Senior Member
My Feedback: (23)
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: W.Bloomfield,
MI
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
From what I have seen, I think the Best grass field planes are the BVM King Cat and the Boomerang. Both are very aerobatic and land slow. The retracts on the KC are strong and the pilots at our field keep the gear. On the other hand, the Boomerang is a fixed gear. For a real hard landing you may have to bend the wire strut. If want looks the KC is much nicer. You can have 8 Boomerangs for one KC.
Al Cardash is gong to have a Baby Boomerang ARF around Feb. A short field and grass, this is the plane. If it performs anything like the big brother than you have a winner for any field.
Burt
Al Cardash is gong to have a Baby Boomerang ARF around Feb. A short field and grass, this is the plane. If it performs anything like the big brother than you have a winner for any field.
Burt
#11
Senior Member
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Newcastle, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
The Baby Boomarang with retracts should be a good choice for average/rough grass fields and short strips. Check out the videos on Alan's site http://easytoflyjets.com/home.htm. I'm into balsa bashing and really enjoying the building to date, though there is now I see an ARF being offered. Seeing this model fly and looking at its flight envelope it is going to be hard to beat off restricted grass flying sites.
Paul
Paul
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: London, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 508
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jet for grass field operation
Have a look at this flight from a wet bumpy small grass field at;-
http://www.friesianflyer.co.uk/videos/boomerang.wmv
http://www.friesianflyer.co.uk/videos/boomerang.wmv