best glue for sheeting on foam wings
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best glue for sheeting on foam wings
Hi guys,
What is the best glue for adhearing 1/16 sheeting to foam wing cores? I hear that something like Gorilla wood glue works well? What is your taughts on that?
thanks,
Frank
What is the best glue for adhearing 1/16 sheeting to foam wing cores? I hear that something like Gorilla wood glue works well? What is your taughts on that?
thanks,
Frank
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
Hi skrez,
Check compatability on a scrap piece of foam first. Usuall contact cement is ok, but..........you have to be dead accurate the first time.
I generally use watered down PVA glue. I brush the glue onto both the skin and foam and allow to dry, (not touching or in place). I then position the sheeting, (you have all the time in the world to get it set up), then iron the sheeting in place. The heat from the iron activates the glue after positioning. I think this process is called "melding", what ever it is called it creates a really strong bond.
Cheers,
Colin
Check compatability on a scrap piece of foam first. Usuall contact cement is ok, but..........you have to be dead accurate the first time.
I generally use watered down PVA glue. I brush the glue onto both the skin and foam and allow to dry, (not touching or in place). I then position the sheeting, (you have all the time in the world to get it set up), then iron the sheeting in place. The heat from the iron activates the glue after positioning. I think this process is called "melding", what ever it is called it creates a really strong bond.
Cheers,
Colin
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
I have used Sig Core Bond and I have used Dave Brown's Sourgum. I think the Sig core bond works better. Contact cement is easy, just lay some waxed paper on the core first, adjust the position of the wing skin, and slide the waxed paper out.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
Polyurethane glue has a strong bond unaffected by heat or age. Just make sure you use the shucks and alot of weight to hold things in place.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
On the last set of foam cores that I have sheeted, I used Elmer's Ultimate Poly glue. I am pleased with the results. This method for me is much easier than epoxy or finishing resin.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
I use Elmers Ultimate glue... half the price of Gorilla glue and a tad lighter. same stuff basically
Spread a thin layer on the balsa sheet (about 1 oz) with a credit card enough to produce a nice sheen and then take a cheap 3" foam roller and roll it out. This does three things.
1. picks up any excess glue
2. creates an even coating over the sheet
3. helps to foam the glue slightly raising it slightly
Lightly mist the foam cores with an atomizer. This gets the glue to foaming and helps cure it. Use about 250lbs of weight on your shucks and let it cure for about 15-24 hrs. This is about the lightest and strongest method of building foam and balsa sheeted wings. I use carbon fiber tow for spars and high stress areas with very little weight gain and increased strength.
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Spread a thin layer on the balsa sheet (about 1 oz) with a credit card enough to produce a nice sheen and then take a cheap 3" foam roller and roll it out. This does three things.
1. picks up any excess glue
2. creates an even coating over the sheet
3. helps to foam the glue slightly raising it slightly
Lightly mist the foam cores with an atomizer. This gets the glue to foaming and helps cure it. Use about 250lbs of weight on your shucks and let it cure for about 15-24 hrs. This is about the lightest and strongest method of building foam and balsa sheeted wings. I use carbon fiber tow for spars and high stress areas with very little weight gain and increased strength.
Wayne Galligan
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Hi guys,
What is the best glue for adhearing 1/16 sheeting to foam wing cores? I hear that something like Gorilla wood glue works well? What is your taughts on that?
thanks,
Frank
Hi guys,
What is the best glue for adhearing 1/16 sheeting to foam wing cores? I hear that something like Gorilla wood glue works well? What is your taughts on that?
thanks,
Frank
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
I guess I am old fashioned.... I still use West Systems epoxy resin. I also have used the Elmers Poly glue. I see virtually no difference in the results either in strength or finished weight. West Systems has two advantages over the poly in two areas.... the trailing edges of my pylon racers are a full sheeted composite of balsa, glass and carbon tow... the West Systems sets up these type of structures a little bit stiffer than the poly does which is important when I cut the ailerons into a 160 MPH high G-load wing. The other area West is superior is shelf life. The poly only last about a year once opened so youy have to buy an amount equal to what you will use in that time frame. I get West at any marine store by the quart and it last for many years and is good for many things other than sheeting.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
every one that I know that makes thier own foam wings uses "copydex" it is a latex glue that is genraly used for arts and crafts but works really well
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I am also a ProBond user but I vacuum bag also. I use about 6" of vacuum with 1 lb density foam and go up from there with the higher density foams. It has enough working time that I can place foam, carbon fiber and sheeting all in one operation.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
I second this method. Very easy to get excellent results this way.
Built my first carden with probond. 35% Extra with DA100 and canister mufflers.....RTF weight less than 28lbs! Who says Cardens are heavy??!!
Built my first carden with probond. 35% Extra with DA100 and canister mufflers.....RTF weight less than 28lbs! Who says Cardens are heavy??!!
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I am also a ProBond user but I vacuum bag also. I use about 6" of vacuum with 1 lb density foam and go up from there with the higher density foams. It has enough working time that I can place foam, carbon fiber and sheeting all in one operation.
RH
I am also a ProBond user but I vacuum bag also. I use about 6" of vacuum with 1 lb density foam and go up from there with the higher density foams. It has enough working time that I can place foam, carbon fiber and sheeting all in one operation.
RH
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
Finishing resin, Zpoxy works well. Just be sure to sand the cores with 600 grit, to get them nice and smooth. Thsi prevents excessive epoxy build up and helps to keep the weight down.
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RE: best glue for sheeting on foam wings
I make foam core floats that I sheet with 1/16" balsa and I use 3M 78 spray glue for foam. It is a contact cement that I spray on both surfaces, wait about 1-2 minutes then press together. The old formula 3M 77 was good also, but now they use acetone in the formula....Seaplane