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Hello, I have just bought these two cars, and I'll post the links so you can know exactly what I got...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
The buggy is new and the Revo is used.
I bought the tool kit with the buggy also.
Can someone tell me ALL that I need to know to get started? I have not touched either truck, I have just taken them out of the box.
What do I need to get the buggy running? Where do the batteries go in the buggy or how can I find out?
What type of gas would the buggy run on?
What type of break in should I do for the buggy to maximize life?
Where should I read about tuning? A complete tuning manual?
What else would I have to do with the buggy to get maximum life and fun?
Any other comments?
Now about the Revo
What type of fuel does this truck run on?
Where do the batteries go on the truck?
The batteries in the starter is a rechargable, how do I recharge it?
How do I start this truck?
The guy said that this truck needed a tune, how do I do that perfectly?
The truck has an aftermarket air cleaner and the body doesn't fit on right in the front, how do I remedy this?
Are the aftermarket parts, (dual exhaust and air cleaner are as far as I can see) beneficial to the performance of my truck or are they detrimental?
Any other comments? Suggestions?
Please, I need all the help I can get!
My AIM name is Insomnya3am
My email address is [email protected]
Hell, if any of you want to, my cell is 313-779-3920
I'll be checking this about every half hour, that's how excited I am to get this going!
Oh, BTW, I live in grosse pointe woods, mi, 48236. Does anyone know any hobby shops around here to buy stuff for my trucks? It's the Detroit Area. Thanks again!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1
The buggy is new and the Revo is used.
I bought the tool kit with the buggy also.
Can someone tell me ALL that I need to know to get started? I have not touched either truck, I have just taken them out of the box.
What do I need to get the buggy running? Where do the batteries go in the buggy or how can I find out?
What type of gas would the buggy run on?
What type of break in should I do for the buggy to maximize life?
Where should I read about tuning? A complete tuning manual?
What else would I have to do with the buggy to get maximum life and fun?
Any other comments?
Now about the Revo
What type of fuel does this truck run on?
Where do the batteries go on the truck?
The batteries in the starter is a rechargable, how do I recharge it?
How do I start this truck?
The guy said that this truck needed a tune, how do I do that perfectly?
The truck has an aftermarket air cleaner and the body doesn't fit on right in the front, how do I remedy this?
Are the aftermarket parts, (dual exhaust and air cleaner are as far as I can see) beneficial to the performance of my truck or are they detrimental?
Any other comments? Suggestions?
Please, I need all the help I can get!
My AIM name is Insomnya3am
My email address is [email protected]
Hell, if any of you want to, my cell is 313-779-3920
I'll be checking this about every half hour, that's how excited I am to get this going!
Oh, BTW, I live in grosse pointe woods, mi, 48236. Does anyone know any hobby shops around here to buy stuff for my trucks? It's the Detroit Area. Thanks again!
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RE: Newbie Need Some Serious Help - Thankyou!
Ok first off the smartech buggy will probably break a lot easier then the t-maxx. But anyway ill help you out. Before you try to start it make sure you have put the batterys in the correct places. These places should be easily found because they are really the only places that batterys look like they could go. After baterys are in then turn on the servo in the car and turn on you remote control and make sure you have control of the car as in the wheels move and the throttle (bar?) can move up and down.
First off to start the the buggy, first put NITRO fuel inside the tank. Buy nitro fuel at a hobby shop, just search in your phone book for a close one to you. Also it doesnt really matter the % nitro but i would say go atleast 20% or higher. A gallon cost around $30.00
After the fuel is in then take the glow plug igniter (with the battery in it) and stick it on the glow plug. The glow plug is on the engine cooling head you should be able to find it easily. After the glow plug igniter is attached to the glow plug then prime it with the button on the fuel tank for the buggy. Prime it until you see some nitro going into the carb from the fuel tube.
After the car is primed then take the pull start and just pull it back but not as hard as you can because you will brake it. But just keep the glow plug igniter on the glow plug while you starting it. Once it starts take the glow plug igniter off.
Now you must break in the engine. Im not going to explain this because people do it different ways, but a summary of it is to let the car run on idle first half tank, then go very slow. On second tank still go slow but a lil faster. Third tank go medium speed 4th tank go kind of fast and on the fifth tank just vary the speeds but try to go max speed like once or twice.
After the engine is broken in now you can actually run it how you want but dont just go full speed up and down for a long time because if the engine gets too hot it can explode. Its ok if you hit a few curbs and such just dont try to because it is expensivex if you break something like the engine or transmission.
Ok so to start it we got here:
put batterys in all places and turn servos on
put nitro fuel in gas tank
prime it a couple times
put glow plug igniter on glow plug
pull the pull start until the car starts
take off glow plug igniter
break in the engine and get use to the cars
Thats basic info about it but on your t-maxx you have an ez start. you dont need a glow plug igniter and you dont need to pull it.
heres how youd do it i think, even though ive never had an ez start car
put batterys in turn on servos
put nitro in tank and prime it
take start box and put it somewhere (sorry i dont know where)
press the button on start box to start the car (i think)
thats all.
About tuning, You can either search the threads for one or google this "tuning a nitro engine"
The cars take about 12 AA batterys so you might want to get rechargable ones.
To recarge the battery for the start box, put it in the recharger for i think 15 minutes (?)
The aftermarket products should help it but i really dont know but i say keep them on.
Some comments:
You will probably like the t-maxx more then the buggy
Smartech is a low quality company, traxxas is high quality
At you lhs (local hobby shop) ask the guy what type of glow plugs you need for each car and get a couple for each car.
One gallon of nitro last pretty long.
To make the body fit just cut the small holes so that you MAKE it fit. It wont hurt its performance to have a littl bit bigger holes
If you are going to jump jumps then let go of the throttle while in the air.
Well do you have anymore questions? Ill be happy to answer!
First off to start the the buggy, first put NITRO fuel inside the tank. Buy nitro fuel at a hobby shop, just search in your phone book for a close one to you. Also it doesnt really matter the % nitro but i would say go atleast 20% or higher. A gallon cost around $30.00
After the fuel is in then take the glow plug igniter (with the battery in it) and stick it on the glow plug. The glow plug is on the engine cooling head you should be able to find it easily. After the glow plug igniter is attached to the glow plug then prime it with the button on the fuel tank for the buggy. Prime it until you see some nitro going into the carb from the fuel tube.
After the car is primed then take the pull start and just pull it back but not as hard as you can because you will brake it. But just keep the glow plug igniter on the glow plug while you starting it. Once it starts take the glow plug igniter off.
Now you must break in the engine. Im not going to explain this because people do it different ways, but a summary of it is to let the car run on idle first half tank, then go very slow. On second tank still go slow but a lil faster. Third tank go medium speed 4th tank go kind of fast and on the fifth tank just vary the speeds but try to go max speed like once or twice.
After the engine is broken in now you can actually run it how you want but dont just go full speed up and down for a long time because if the engine gets too hot it can explode. Its ok if you hit a few curbs and such just dont try to because it is expensivex if you break something like the engine or transmission.
Ok so to start it we got here:
put batterys in all places and turn servos on
put nitro fuel in gas tank
prime it a couple times
put glow plug igniter on glow plug
pull the pull start until the car starts
take off glow plug igniter
break in the engine and get use to the cars
Thats basic info about it but on your t-maxx you have an ez start. you dont need a glow plug igniter and you dont need to pull it.
heres how youd do it i think, even though ive never had an ez start car
put batterys in turn on servos
put nitro in tank and prime it
take start box and put it somewhere (sorry i dont know where)
press the button on start box to start the car (i think)
thats all.
About tuning, You can either search the threads for one or google this "tuning a nitro engine"
The cars take about 12 AA batterys so you might want to get rechargable ones.
To recarge the battery for the start box, put it in the recharger for i think 15 minutes (?)
The aftermarket products should help it but i really dont know but i say keep them on.
Some comments:
You will probably like the t-maxx more then the buggy
Smartech is a low quality company, traxxas is high quality
At you lhs (local hobby shop) ask the guy what type of glow plugs you need for each car and get a couple for each car.
One gallon of nitro last pretty long.
To make the body fit just cut the small holes so that you MAKE it fit. It wont hurt its performance to have a littl bit bigger holes
If you are going to jump jumps then let go of the throttle while in the air.
Well do you have anymore questions? Ill be happy to answer!
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I really appreciate your responses. If the buggy loses it's signal, will it just keep going or will it stop? I heard the radio on the buggy really sucks, and I don't want it to go AWOL and smash something. What is a failsafe, where would I buy one, and how do I install it?
Sorry about all of the random questions, I just really want to NOT mess anything up.
Also, how do I know if the previous owner of my REVO ran After run oil after each time he used it? he said he used it only last summer and hasnt played with it since, what damage could be done if he didnt use ARO?
Sorry about all of the random questions, I just really want to NOT mess anything up.
Also, how do I know if the previous owner of my REVO ran After run oil after each time he used it? he said he used it only last summer and hasnt played with it since, what damage could be done if he didnt use ARO?
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u bought two nitro cars... and you don;t have a clue about them..... why?
btw, break ur buggy in on 10%, then make the move up to 15% or 20%,
the smaretch buggy doesn;t break as eaisly as ppl think, my little cousin has one, all he's done is changed the shocks, added a better air filter, and failsafe, and hasn't managed to break it, and hes had it for a few months and uses it almost every afternoon, and every weekend. . and hes only 13, so crashes and rolls are quite common lol.
btw, break ur buggy in on 10%, then make the move up to 15% or 20%,
the smaretch buggy doesn;t break as eaisly as ppl think, my little cousin has one, all he's done is changed the shocks, added a better air filter, and failsafe, and hasn't managed to break it, and hes had it for a few months and uses it almost every afternoon, and every weekend. . and hes only 13, so crashes and rolls are quite common lol.
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ahahh i guess the smartech buggy is actually alright but i had a smartech magic wheel and it wasnt all to great.
Anyway yes if the car loses its radio signal the throttle will be stuck in whatever you had it in, so if your going full speed when you lose your signal, it will smash itsself into a wall.
A failsafe cost around $20 and it idles your engine if you lose the signal. I dont know how to install it, but it should tell yu in the instruction manual.
I dont think theres a way to tell if they previous t-maxx owner used after oil but as long as he totally drained it then id think that the car would run fine after a few tanks are thorugh it.
Also im pretty sure your only supposed to use after oil if your not going to take the car out for another week or so, am i right guys?
Anyway yes if the car loses its radio signal the throttle will be stuck in whatever you had it in, so if your going full speed when you lose your signal, it will smash itsself into a wall.
A failsafe cost around $20 and it idles your engine if you lose the signal. I dont know how to install it, but it should tell yu in the instruction manual.
I dont think theres a way to tell if they previous t-maxx owner used after oil but as long as he totally drained it then id think that the car would run fine after a few tanks are thorugh it.
Also im pretty sure your only supposed to use after oil if your not going to take the car out for another week or so, am i right guys?
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Well, I guess somehow in my mind I thought it was a Revo, I didn't read the auction close enough. I'm happy with what I've read about the tmaxx for a starter truck. I was bidding on a few on ebay and won two auctions, that's why I have two. I've always wanted nitro cars so I jumped in head first. I'll be buying some things off tower hobby and see how it goes. I still have a giant amount of questions that are unanswered from my first posts if any of you want to take a shot. Thanks!
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DO NOT SWITCH FROM 10 PERCENT TO A HIGHER PERCENT IN FUEL[/color]. ALWAYS USE THE SAME PERCENT THAT YOU USED IN BREAK IN. I reccomend 20%. Changing the percent can cause engine troubles. People try to tell others that starting with 10% during break in and then switching to a higher percent is the way to do it, but that is false. Just pick a percent and stick with it. Remember, a higher percent does not neccesarily mean that it will make the car run faster.
Also a tip for the newbie, read the manual word for word if you have one. Follow all intructions. Also, there is a book called nitro basics, you should definately get that, that will teach you a WHOLE LOT of stuff about nitro cars and will answer a lot of these questions. Try to find a local hobby shop near you.[/color][/size][/size]
Also a tip for the newbie, read the manual word for word if you have one. Follow all intructions. Also, there is a book called nitro basics, you should definately get that, that will teach you a WHOLE LOT of stuff about nitro cars and will answer a lot of these questions. Try to find a local hobby shop near you.[/color][/size][/size]
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what the hell u use 5% in the brake in because a lower % means les oil and mean's the car will run hotter and u want this becuase when u first run in a car it has very high comprshion. and 20% it will run color becuase it has more oil content witch will stuff up the brake in
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anyone ho works at a hobby shop or club member will tell you that it is very important to pick a percent and stick with it.
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yeah but for the brake in use %5 than ofter that use 16 or %20 what ever u modle takes but after the brake in u never change it
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I'm so horribly pissed, I'm going to kill something.
Today I bought 20% gas, all the batteries and chargers I needed, and started the cars.
First off, the Tmaxx doesn't run. I hooked up the starter on full charge, and all you hear is a spinning electric motor, it doesn't turn over. It sounds like the gears in the electric starter are stripped. Also, the steering is WAY off center, even if I trim it with the remote, and the link between the truck and the remote isn't constant, it responds, then it won't for about 20 seconds, then it begings responding again.
The smartech buggy was idling and then it started smoking, and now when I try to start it, all the wheels spin, the motor and driveline are fused together. The smartech buggy also idled EXTREMLY high out of the box, I stopped it after the first second, tuned all the screws to factory spec in the manual, and started it again. It ran for about 20 minutes before it became a smoking mess when the clutch fried. When you're breaking in the motor, you're supposed to not let it roll anywhere, correct? Just let it idle up against something?
Any ideas? I bought both of these pieces off of eBay, I'm going to file an unhappy bidder thing right now.
Today I bought 20% gas, all the batteries and chargers I needed, and started the cars.
First off, the Tmaxx doesn't run. I hooked up the starter on full charge, and all you hear is a spinning electric motor, it doesn't turn over. It sounds like the gears in the electric starter are stripped. Also, the steering is WAY off center, even if I trim it with the remote, and the link between the truck and the remote isn't constant, it responds, then it won't for about 20 seconds, then it begings responding again.
The smartech buggy was idling and then it started smoking, and now when I try to start it, all the wheels spin, the motor and driveline are fused together. The smartech buggy also idled EXTREMLY high out of the box, I stopped it after the first second, tuned all the screws to factory spec in the manual, and started it again. It ran for about 20 minutes before it became a smoking mess when the clutch fried. When you're breaking in the motor, you're supposed to not let it roll anywhere, correct? Just let it idle up against something?
Any ideas? I bought both of these pieces off of eBay, I'm going to file an unhappy bidder thing right now.
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If you have a manual, it should tell you how to break it in. If not, you should go through at least 4-5 tanks of gas during break in. you should start off applying the throttle to about 1/4 throttle for a few seconds then slowly apply the brake. Do not make any fast movements with the throttle or brake during break-in. Then aorund the 3 or 4th tank you should apply about 1/2 - 3/4 for about 3 seconds then aplly brake slowly and continue. Then on the 5 tank you should go full throttle for about 3 seconds and then brake. Then the sixth tank you should be ready to go. For the smart tech car it sounds like you need to turn the idle screw counter clockwise to lower it. If the car creeps forward with out you applying throttle, the the idle is to high. You shoudl get a thermometer thing at a local hobby shop to measure teh engines temp. If smoke or steam comes form the engine and not the exhaust, then the engine is way to hot. You should play around with the idle screw and high speed needle a little or just take the cars to a hobby shop. I hope some of that information helps. Nitro motors can be really cranky, they need to have the perferct adjustments made to them for it to run good. Its not likely for a person to come across a defective car.