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Old 02-22-2006, 03:53 AM
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I was thinking of trading my low time P-80 for a similar condition P-60 for my YA F18. What are the Pros and Cons in doing this?? need your help on this guys. I'm trying to shed some weight off my hornet. It topped the scale at 18 pounds dry[:@], a little too heavy in my opinion and I don't know why it is this heavy. I don't have any accesories.

I would appreciate your opinions.

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Old 02-22-2006, 08:33 AM
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The P-60 will have much better spool up times.
The motor is very powerful for it's size.
The specs say 13lbs. but I'm getting over 14lbs.

Fuel consumption is good and your flight times will be much longer in the hornet.
This is the motor size you want in that plane.

I had a P-60 in a converted TGA F-15 (in my avatar). The plane was well over 20lbs wet but the motor flew it effortlessly.
Old 02-22-2006, 11:19 AM
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Get a SimJet 1200- (or a Wren SS) 18 #s thrust with the same size and fuel use as the 60. Scott
Old 02-22-2006, 11:48 AM
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well the downside of that is the Wren SS costs about 800 bucks more than a P-60 or P-80
Old 02-22-2006, 01:15 PM
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The Simjet 1200 is not that far away in price from the P-60. I have not seen any feed back on this motor here on RCU but it looks like a good value if you want a small motor with 16-18lbs of thrust. V..
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I believe that independant test have proven the P-60 uses much more than the advertized 6oz per minute. I am undecided on my small turbine purchase coming up. THe wren SS is in the lead for sure. That simjet 1200 looks awesome as does the PST J600R, for value and quality.

Good luck hornet1, that 80 is a sweet motor.

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The P-60 is fantastic, I would not hesitate to buy another.
I have never had a failed start.

I also own a T-500 and now a PST 600R

I give the P-60 the nod just because it is a smaller engine in size than the others and the electronic goodies from Jetcat cant be beat.
Old 02-22-2006, 03:32 PM
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I just ran my new Bee for the first time, and it is a sweet heart too. It is supposed to use less fuel, but that remains to be seen. I don't see how you can go wrong on a Jetcat, or any in this size range. I thought the original post was that the poster had an offer for a trade P-80 for P-60. Bob
Old 02-22-2006, 05:59 PM
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I appreciate all your coments. I am seriously considering trading my P80 here on RCU and maybe someone will want to trade their P60. I like Jet Cat because of their quality, reliability and their service is here in CA. All the engines mentioned above are good engines its just that when it comes to servicing you have to ship some of these out. What do you guys think about the dry weight of the Hornet though?? 18 pouds, too heavy maybe??? My ARF hornet single is not the latest kit so it does not have all the reinforcement the new ones now have.

thank you for all your coments....

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You will lose a little weight with the P-60.


18lbs is up there but still I think the airframe will handle it fine.
Lots of lifting area.
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Does anyone out there have a video of a YA Hornet single. I'd really like to see how it flies with a P60 or a P80 or similar size motors. You can mail to [email protected]

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Default RE: Trading my P-80 for a P60??

Better yet post a video of an F18 single with a turbine, I'm curious as well.
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ORIGINAL: Goekeli

I believe that independant test have proven the P-60 uses much more than the advertized 6oz per minute. I am undecided on my small turbine purchase coming up. THe wren SS is in the lead for sure. That simjet 1200 looks awesome as does the PST J600R, for value and quality.

Good luck hornet1, that 80 is a sweet motor.

Joe
I get about 6 minutes at 2/3 average throttle (+-100,000 rpm average for the flight) out of a 1.5l dubro tank( with a little remaining for a go round). I had expected beter economy based on the advertised specification (190ml / minute = 8 minutes)! This does seem out of line, even allowing for some air in the tank when it is full and the residual after landing I expected more time at 2/3 throttle average OR is it very uneconomical to be throttling up and down for the flight.

Be interesting to do a 6 minute flight at full throttle all the way and see what is left in the tank.

Believe it or not, it is raining here in the desert - hopefully if it is clear tomorrow I will do a flight at full throttle!
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Sounds cool Rory! I'd like to see the P60s fuel usage indepentantly verifyed before I buy one. Do the 6 minute flight, that is a great idea. At 6 oz per minute a 60oz tank should read empty!?!

I in no way reccomended the turbines I stated and only have limited experience with wren. I own a jetcat P120 and am happy with it so far. Today it went through 4 gallons and never skipped a beat. After being badgerd today by the local jetcat rep. about posting and or recommending in the RCU jet forum some what non jetcat favor, in his opinion, I believe he is secretly selling wrens! Nice job dude!~)hahaha! j/k




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Shouldn't a 60 oz tank last 10 minutes at 6 ozs a minute? The one thing about the Bee and the P-60 is that they weigh almost 6 to 8 ozs less then the Wren/ 600r engines. It can mean much less nose weight in some aircraft.
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Default RE: Trading my P-80 for a P60??

Hrnet 1
There are many quality engines out there in the market.They all have their pros and cons and it really comes down to your personal choice.
I too own a Yellow aircraft F18. I bought it about 2.5 years ago and have many flights on it.
18 lbs is not too bad with a p-80. You must be using Li-Ion batteries to achive that weight.
Which nose strud are you using? I've seen some Scale nose gear made for that airplane that is quite heavy.
In my opinion, If you like JetCat, a P-70 would be an ideal powerplant.
The Airframe of the plane is very dragy and a little extra muscle could go a long way.
The P-70 is not as light as a P-60 and not as powerful as the P-80 but a happy medion.
My airplane with a P-70 weighs in at 16 lbs 3 oz dry.

What are you using for retracts? The Yellow retracts did not hold up too well for me.
Post some pictures if you can

All the Best
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I get 6 minute flights on a 50 oz tank with my P-60 and land with fuel left in the main.

My friend Bob had a P-60 and the first 5 or 6 runs puzzled us because it was drinking an enormous amount of fuel. Then on around the 7th run, it suddenly stopped using as much.
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JasonP

The jet had Yellow mains, Funk retracts, RC Crafters nose strut when I bought it here on RCU. I'm using NiMHs batteries. What retracts are You using? I just saw in the forum that this jet will fly fine with the P80 so thats a comforting statistic. But why does your jet weigh only 16 lbs. 3oz with your p70. if the p70 weighs 2.6 lbs and a p80 weighs 2.9 lbs?? I think the only thing diferent on my jet is the RC Crafters nose strut.

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Ronnie,

Is there an explanation to that????
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Hornet 1
I am running Li-Ions On mine and the standard YA nose strud. You are right about the weight of the engines though. They are not different enough to
Make such a 2 lbs change.
All the other hardwares I am using are the YA recommended.

Edit: I use the 500 series Robart for retracts.

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No, I brought it up in the Jetcat forum but never got an answer
But the motor now uses very little fuel.



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Ronnie,

Is there an explanation to that????

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