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Maybe it just wasn't meant to be?
Maybe something is telling me I shouldn't have gotten this RC 10GT, or any RC car for that matter. Everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong so far.
First, it was the problem getting my order. Once I finally got my order, I found out the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn over the engine. Then I found out something is wrong with my nicad battery pack for my receiver. It has no charge, and it won't take a chage for some reason.
Today, I tried starting the engine using the pull starter. What a pain in the *****! I was able to get it started briefly, but it wouldn't stay running. I kept adjusting the low speed mixture, but no go. I spent more time removing the glow plug because the cylinder kept getting too much fuel in it and I wouldn't be able to pull the starter cord, it would just lock up. When this happened, the cord was even hard to pull with the glow plug removed! These engines have some serious compression! I'm afraid the pull start is going to crap out on me before I ever get this thing running. I wish the stupid starter box would work. This is exactly why I bought it. The engine wasn't doing anything towards the end, not even popping. I think I ran down my glow plug battery. I'll try it again tomorrow.
I've got a lot of experience with glow engines, so it's very frustrating that I can't figure this thing out. I didn't think I'd have this much trouble with it. I think part of it is because the elevation here is 6000 ft., which is going to affect my fuel mixture settings.
First, it was the problem getting my order. Once I finally got my order, I found out the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn over the engine. Then I found out something is wrong with my nicad battery pack for my receiver. It has no charge, and it won't take a chage for some reason.
Today, I tried starting the engine using the pull starter. What a pain in the *****! I was able to get it started briefly, but it wouldn't stay running. I kept adjusting the low speed mixture, but no go. I spent more time removing the glow plug because the cylinder kept getting too much fuel in it and I wouldn't be able to pull the starter cord, it would just lock up. When this happened, the cord was even hard to pull with the glow plug removed! These engines have some serious compression! I'm afraid the pull start is going to crap out on me before I ever get this thing running. I wish the stupid starter box would work. This is exactly why I bought it. The engine wasn't doing anything towards the end, not even popping. I think I ran down my glow plug battery. I'll try it again tomorrow.
I've got a lot of experience with glow engines, so it's very frustrating that I can't figure this thing out. I didn't think I'd have this much trouble with it. I think part of it is because the elevation here is 6000 ft., which is going to affect my fuel mixture settings.
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grampi....Just rely on your experience and stay calm. Try not to let it get you down. Get all your ducks in a row "AGAIN".....and keep at it. You'll get it going!
As for the engine giving you a tuff time.....are you trying to start it in a warm area or out in the cold temps? If it's cold....try using a hair dryer to warm up the cylinder.
What plug are you using? An OS #8 or #3 should be a good choice. I am using the #3 in my TMaxx and it's doing very well. If you have a #8 give it a try.
What fuel are you using? Brand.....% of nitro?
When you begin to start then engine..."as per the instruction manual".......be sure the piston is not at top position as it will only increase the stress on the pull start. If it's at bottom then you stand a better chance of having it turn over....and hopefully firing.
Place the carb needle settings as per the manual and start again. Get all of the excess fuel out of the cylinder.....make sure the glow igniter is charged / new.....and try again. IT WILL FIRE EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!
Patience is tuff when all seems to be working against you. Get those ducks in a row and try again. If your getting to frustrated....back off and let it set. Go have a beverage....then try again. IT WILL WORK!!!!!!! KEEP TRYING!!!!!!!!
http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/engine_start.asp
Good Luck and keep asking questions. There's plenty of guys here who want to see you get it going!
As for the engine giving you a tuff time.....are you trying to start it in a warm area or out in the cold temps? If it's cold....try using a hair dryer to warm up the cylinder.
What plug are you using? An OS #8 or #3 should be a good choice. I am using the #3 in my TMaxx and it's doing very well. If you have a #8 give it a try.
What fuel are you using? Brand.....% of nitro?
When you begin to start then engine..."as per the instruction manual".......be sure the piston is not at top position as it will only increase the stress on the pull start. If it's at bottom then you stand a better chance of having it turn over....and hopefully firing.
Place the carb needle settings as per the manual and start again. Get all of the excess fuel out of the cylinder.....make sure the glow igniter is charged / new.....and try again. IT WILL FIRE EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!
Patience is tuff when all seems to be working against you. Get those ducks in a row and try again. If your getting to frustrated....back off and let it set. Go have a beverage....then try again. IT WILL WORK!!!!!!! KEEP TRYING!!!!!!!!
http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/engine_start.asp
Good Luck and keep asking questions. There's plenty of guys here who want to see you get it going!
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Hang in there and keep trying. Here are a few tips on how to get your engine started that I learned from the guys at my race club.
Read your engine instruction manual and set the low and high speed screws where they tell you. Take the glow plug out and see if it lights when you attach the starter battery. Replace the glow plug. WITHOUT your starter battery attached. Place your thumb over the exhaust port on your muffler and pull on the started cord until you can hear and feel that fuel is in the engine. The cord will pull easier when fuel has reached the engine. Put your glow plug battery starter on and remove your thumb from the exhaust hole and give the starter cord a pull. It should fire right up on the first pull or so. When you use your starter box and are trying to start a cold engine you won't need to put your thumb on the exhaust hole however turn the engine over without the starter battery until you hear that fuel is in the engine. Put the starter battery on and it should start right up. You will know the sound of fuel in the engine as the popping sound is not as loud and the engine turns over more smoothly.
I would like to know how long your fuel tubing is from the fuel tank to the engine carburetor?
Read your engine instruction manual and set the low and high speed screws where they tell you. Take the glow plug out and see if it lights when you attach the starter battery. Replace the glow plug. WITHOUT your starter battery attached. Place your thumb over the exhaust port on your muffler and pull on the started cord until you can hear and feel that fuel is in the engine. The cord will pull easier when fuel has reached the engine. Put your glow plug battery starter on and remove your thumb from the exhaust hole and give the starter cord a pull. It should fire right up on the first pull or so. When you use your starter box and are trying to start a cold engine you won't need to put your thumb on the exhaust hole however turn the engine over without the starter battery until you hear that fuel is in the engine. Put the starter battery on and it should start right up. You will know the sound of fuel in the engine as the popping sound is not as loud and the engine turns over more smoothly.
I would like to know how long your fuel tubing is from the fuel tank to the engine carburetor?
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I was trying to start it outside, but then moved into the house. It's not real cold here, it's been in the 40's, but that may be cold enough for a new motor not to start.
Right now I'm using the plug that came in the motor. I bought 3 extra plugs which are DuraTrax plugs. I don't what number they are, but it says they are the hot range plug. Maybe I should try one of these to see if it helps.
The fuel I'm using is Magnum 20% nitro and 20% oil.
I will reset the fuel mixture settings tomorrow and try again.
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I did pull out the glow plug several times and it glowed bright red. I really wish I could just mash this thing on the starter box. I'm sure it would start if I could. But like I said, the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn the engine over. When I press the flywheel against the starter box wheel (after it's spinning of course) it just stops. I don't know if it needs a higher amp battery, or if I need to charge the battery longer. If I can't get it to work, I may just have to send it back to Tower. If it won't turn the engine over, it's not doing me any good.
I was trying to start it outside, but then moved into the house. It's not real cold here, it's been in the 40's, but that may be cold enough for a new motor not to start.
Right now I'm using the plug that came in the motor. I bought 3 extra plugs which are DuraTrax plugs. I don't what number they are, but it says they are the hot range plug. Maybe I should try one of these to see if it helps.
The fuel I'm using is Magnum 20% nitro and 20% oil.
I will reset the fuel mixture settings tomorrow and try again.
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I did pull out the glow plug several times and it glowed bright red. I really wish I could just mash this thing on the starter box. I'm sure it would start if I could. But like I said, the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn the engine over. When I press the flywheel against the starter box wheel (after it's spinning of course) it just stops. I don't know if it needs a higher amp battery, or if I need to charge the battery longer. If I can't get it to work, I may just have to send it back to Tower. If it won't turn the engine over, it's not doing me any good.
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I mentioned these web sites before but i will gladly do it again. To get the most from your starter box you will need to do a little work.
http://www.rcnitro.com/rn/articles/ht_starterbox.asp
http://www.rc411.com/howto/starterbox-01.html
Both of these articles have multiple pages so read past the first page.
I have built my own starter box using an electric motor that I use to start my R/C airplanes. It is much more expensive than the commercial nitro starter boxes but I already had the motor which made it practical. The guys at our club have the nitro starter and made the mods as show in the articles above and are very happy with the results.
http://www.rcnitro.com/rn/articles/ht_starterbox.asp
http://www.rc411.com/howto/starterbox-01.html
Both of these articles have multiple pages so read past the first page.
I have built my own starter box using an electric motor that I use to start my R/C airplanes. It is much more expensive than the commercial nitro starter boxes but I already had the motor which made it practical. The guys at our club have the nitro starter and made the mods as show in the articles above and are very happy with the results.
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grampi..........Another point that I believe has been made but it's worth repeating again.
Try loosening the glow plug about a half a turn just before you try starting the engine. This will allow some compression to escape, but the engine should start. Once it's running....then tighten up the plug and move on to the next step in the engine break in procedure.
Try loosening the glow plug about a half a turn just before you try starting the engine. This will allow some compression to escape, but the engine should start. Once it's running....then tighten up the plug and move on to the next step in the engine break in procedure.
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yes i have one myself and i broke it in, in about 30 - 40 degree wether lol i was way to excited. What u shouldnt have did was mess with the low speed needle to start with, the needles is pre set to get it started and runin so u can tune it a little richer for break in.
First like crash said just heat head up with a hair dryer for about 30 - 60 secs doesnt take long at all then just put glow plug ignighter on and pull about 10 times u will see the gas going up the fuel line and once u see it enter the engine it should start up after about 5 pulls. if not screw in idle speed more thats what i had to do. It probly should start right up. If it starts then stops then turn idle speed in a bit more about 1/2 turn.
This is what i did to start with, i was having the problem u was becuase it was way to cold outside, had to take the hair dryer to it.
DONT GIVE UP man i didnt and the pay off is great i love my rc10gt now boy i got it burning the tires on the road
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First like crash said just heat head up with a hair dryer for about 30 - 60 secs doesnt take long at all then just put glow plug ignighter on and pull about 10 times u will see the gas going up the fuel line and once u see it enter the engine it should start up after about 5 pulls. if not screw in idle speed more thats what i had to do. It probly should start right up. If it starts then stops then turn idle speed in a bit more about 1/2 turn.
This is what i did to start with, i was having the problem u was becuase it was way to cold outside, had to take the hair dryer to it.
DONT GIVE UP man i didnt and the pay off is great i love my rc10gt now boy i got it burning the tires on the road
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I think its great that everyone jumps on and tries to help out with direction and so forth.
After reading your initial post over a couple of times though, I feel like you should seek the help of an experienced person in this hobby.
You did make the statement that you have some experience with these engines, but Im guessing that that experience may be based on airplane engines or something different than what you are looking at now.
What you are seeing may just be a difficult to BREAK-IN engine and you may need some assistance the first time through.
While I feel you could figure it out on your own I also feel that it would save you a lot of frustration just to get some help.
Just my thoughts
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After reading your initial post over a couple of times though, I feel like you should seek the help of an experienced person in this hobby.
You did make the statement that you have some experience with these engines, but Im guessing that that experience may be based on airplane engines or something different than what you are looking at now.
What you are seeing may just be a difficult to BREAK-IN engine and you may need some assistance the first time through.
While I feel you could figure it out on your own I also feel that it would save you a lot of frustration just to get some help.
Just my thoughts
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The reason I changed the low speed mixture is because it kept flooding the cylinder at the factory setting, and then I'd have to pull the glow plug to get rid of the excess fuel. I'm guessing this setting is too rich because of the elevation here of 6000 ft. They probably set the mixture for sea level. I will set it back as close as I can get it to the factory setting to see if this will help, then I'll adjust from there as necessary.
The reason I changed the low speed mixture is because it kept flooding the cylinder at the factory setting, and then I'd have to pull the glow plug to get rid of the excess fuel. I'm guessing this setting is too rich because of the elevation here of 6000 ft. They probably set the mixture for sea level. I will set it back as close as I can get it to the factory setting to see if this will help, then I'll adjust from there as necessary.
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oh ok u might be right then about the 6000 ft just try the facty settings first and heat it with a blow dryer like i had to do ad it should start running. Im really not a experienced tech but i do have one and the same things was happing to me. turn the idle speed in some to
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althought it may be different because of your elevation
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althought it may be different because of your elevation
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dbow......grampi lives 50 miles from the nearest hobby store. He already mentioned that to us in another post. He "knows" that he may have to use that option in the end if he is unsuccessful in getting it running. He....like many others are tapping the pool of people here who have had experience with RC car/truck engines because of the convenience. Since most of us already know where he is "physically located" we have been offering what suggestions usually work for the most part. If you have a suggestion "besides the one you posted" to offer....I'm sure grampi would love to hear it. I know I would.
We are all waiting to hear grampi return to this forum with the good news that he finally got it going. Personally....I think it's only a matter of time....once he has everything worked out with his equipment. Also....since he does have engine experience....I did not want to take that away from him. I'm sure he is capable enough to handle this....he just has to avoid getting discouraged. If he cannot get it going....then he'll be packing that rig to town and no doubt....getting/asking for help.
Sorry if I sound a little sensitive about your post. I just know that many here have been offering good suggestions to which others have used successfully. I didn't see your post doing that.
grampi......let us know where your at with your rig. We're all waiting to know what's going on???
We are all waiting to hear grampi return to this forum with the good news that he finally got it going. Personally....I think it's only a matter of time....once he has everything worked out with his equipment. Also....since he does have engine experience....I did not want to take that away from him. I'm sure he is capable enough to handle this....he just has to avoid getting discouraged. If he cannot get it going....then he'll be packing that rig to town and no doubt....getting/asking for help.
Sorry if I sound a little sensitive about your post. I just know that many here have been offering good suggestions to which others have used successfully. I didn't see your post doing that.
grampi......let us know where your at with your rig. We're all waiting to know what's going on???
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Crash,
I missed the part about living far away from the hobby shop or whatever.
I agree some very good suggestions, however it is often very hard for us to see the real problem. We can sit here and write all day and still not know what is causing the issue.
Thats why I usually suggest taking it to someone that has experience. In most cases a person who has been around for a while will take a minute or 2 and then say "ahhhhh there is your problem" then its all over and its ready to go.
I mentioned in my previous post that I took into account that he had some previous experience, however it could possibly be with airplane engines which are much different.
Im not trying to be negative so if I came across that way I apologize, I like to see people succeed in the hobby too and when problems arise its good to make suggestions, however if they dont seem to solve the problem Im always quick to say let someone else look at it.
Especially with the Starter box issue as I posted on the other thread, someone suggested letting the box get a running start...thats a sure way to damage your engine if it is in fact stuck.
So to close, again im my opinion take it to someone who can fix it and get you going in a couple of minutes. Even if it means making a little trip to get it done.
Not trying to put anyone down or any such thing Crash,just trying to offer my opinion and help.
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I missed the part about living far away from the hobby shop or whatever.
I agree some very good suggestions, however it is often very hard for us to see the real problem. We can sit here and write all day and still not know what is causing the issue.
Thats why I usually suggest taking it to someone that has experience. In most cases a person who has been around for a while will take a minute or 2 and then say "ahhhhh there is your problem" then its all over and its ready to go.
I mentioned in my previous post that I took into account that he had some previous experience, however it could possibly be with airplane engines which are much different.
Im not trying to be negative so if I came across that way I apologize, I like to see people succeed in the hobby too and when problems arise its good to make suggestions, however if they dont seem to solve the problem Im always quick to say let someone else look at it.
Especially with the Starter box issue as I posted on the other thread, someone suggested letting the box get a running start...thats a sure way to damage your engine if it is in fact stuck.
So to close, again im my opinion take it to someone who can fix it and get you going in a couple of minutes. Even if it means making a little trip to get it done.
Not trying to put anyone down or any such thing Crash,just trying to offer my opinion and help.
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eeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I finally got it going today! I figured the best thing to do was to see if I could get the starter box to turn the engine over.......this would give me the best chance of starting the engine. I stuck its battery on the charger last night. Even though it wasn't taking much of a charge, I wanted to make sure it was completely charged. One thing I found out about the starter box......you can't use it until you've installed the alignment pegs because the flywheel opening in the frame is so small, you have to palce it in the excact correct spot before it'll work. Someone else mentioned earlier about the small opening, either in here, or in the starter box thread. Once I aligned the pegs, I removed the glow plug to see if I could get the box to turn the engine over. It did just fine. Then I installed the glow plug, bumped it on the starter, and it started right up. I had to make a few minor low speed mixture adjustments, and the throttle trim was set too low to idle, but after the adjustments, it ran fine.
I took it out in the yard for a few practice runs. Throttle response was good, considering it's still running rich for the break-in period. It puts out a noticeable smoke trail, which is good because I know it's getting enough lube for the break-in. It was doing what looked like between 20 and 25 MPH. This thing must really fly once it's broken in and you can lean it out for power. I won't be afraid to lean it out with the fuel I'm running because its 20% oil content should keep it well lubed.
Thanks for all your help. I propbably would've had a lot more trouble than I did without it. I'll post more as things progress. Happy holidays!
I took it out in the yard for a few practice runs. Throttle response was good, considering it's still running rich for the break-in period. It puts out a noticeable smoke trail, which is good because I know it's getting enough lube for the break-in. It was doing what looked like between 20 and 25 MPH. This thing must really fly once it's broken in and you can lean it out for power. I won't be afraid to lean it out with the fuel I'm running because its 20% oil content should keep it well lubed.
Thanks for all your help. I propbably would've had a lot more trouble than I did without it. I'll post more as things progress. Happy holidays!
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see dbow You cant just run to the hobby store every time u have a promblem but u are right about it some times. GOOD job im so glad u got it running good. just make sure u follow the break in and dont just hold the gas down.
Good luck and yes u will see the power it has its awsome
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Good luck and yes u will see the power it has its awsome
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Have any of you removed the white sleeve from the carb? It looks very restrictive, and it seems like it would make a lot more power with it removed.
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grampi......THAT"S EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!
We are all waiting to hear grampi return to this forum with the good news that he finally got it going. Personally....I think it's only a matter of time ....once he has everything worked out with his equipment.
I knew you would get it sooner or later!!! GOOD JOB grampi!!!!
dbow....Thanks for your post. I knew what you were driving at. And I have to agree with your comments. I just felt that grampi was soooooo close to getting it.....and when he did get it going "after all of his hard work" the end result would make him put a post on here as we all read! That opening statement was quite the enthusiastic statement. I think we all can relate to his excitement.
I have turned to others myself when I have been stumped. Perhaps it's in my nature to be a little more stubborn to keep trying to figure out a problem until I get it....or I don't. In any case dbow....I knew you had his interests in mind. Good Job!
HEY.....LETS ALL CELEBRATE WITH GRAMPI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! !!
We are all waiting to hear grampi return to this forum with the good news that he finally got it going. Personally....I think it's only a matter of time ....once he has everything worked out with his equipment.
I knew you would get it sooner or later!!! GOOD JOB grampi!!!!
dbow....Thanks for your post. I knew what you were driving at. And I have to agree with your comments. I just felt that grampi was soooooo close to getting it.....and when he did get it going "after all of his hard work" the end result would make him put a post on here as we all read! That opening statement was quite the enthusiastic statement. I think we all can relate to his excitement.
I have turned to others myself when I have been stumped. Perhaps it's in my nature to be a little more stubborn to keep trying to figure out a problem until I get it....or I don't. In any case dbow....I knew you had his interests in mind. Good Job!
HEY.....LETS ALL CELEBRATE WITH GRAMPI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! !!
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Sweet.Glad you got it going.
My first car ever was a nitro,and I had 0 experience,so I had a little trouble getting it going.
My local hobby shop said they only sell 'em not work on 'em.And since I didn't buy the car from them they were less than helpful.
So I was on my own.
However after much trial and error and lots of help here on RCU(thanks guys)I figured the ******* out!
Now I can usually,although not always get my cars running.
I was ready to throw the whole thing away and give up!Glad i didn't.
As far as working on them;get used to it!
Happy to hear of your success!
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My first car ever was a nitro,and I had 0 experience,so I had a little trouble getting it going.
My local hobby shop said they only sell 'em not work on 'em.And since I didn't buy the car from them they were less than helpful.
So I was on my own.
However after much trial and error and lots of help here on RCU(thanks guys)I figured the ******* out!
Now I can usually,although not always get my cars running.
I was ready to throw the whole thing away and give up!Glad i didn't.
As far as working on them;get used to it!
Happy to hear of your success!
Later,
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Good for you!!!
You will have many time like this when you just want to give up just keep on trying. Post your questions here and someone will have the right answer for you along with encouragement. I was lucky enough to have an excellent R/C car club to join and wonderful hobby shop where i bought my car to help me. I tried to do everything myself (and still do) but there are times when I just can't figure out what is wrong. If you don't have the support from your hobby shop or R/C car club then this forum is for. None of us have all the answers however some one here can help as most of us have been there, done that. Just keep racing!!!
You will have many time like this when you just want to give up just keep on trying. Post your questions here and someone will have the right answer for you along with encouragement. I was lucky enough to have an excellent R/C car club to join and wonderful hobby shop where i bought my car to help me. I tried to do everything myself (and still do) but there are times when I just can't figure out what is wrong. If you don't have the support from your hobby shop or R/C car club then this forum is for. None of us have all the answers however some one here can help as most of us have been there, done that. Just keep racing!!!
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Well I spoke too soon.
I took my RC10GT out today and no luck.
I think the motor needs a new piston and sleeve.Its doing the same thing my other motors did before I rebuilt them.
I did take the carb restricter out and my car ran good for a couple minutes then I couldn't get it started again.
I'd take it out and see what happens.
BNZ'
I took my RC10GT out today and no luck.
I think the motor needs a new piston and sleeve.Its doing the same thing my other motors did before I rebuilt them.
I did take the carb restricter out and my car ran good for a couple minutes then I couldn't get it started again.
I'd take it out and see what happens.
BNZ'
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Maybe it just wasn't meant to be?
I can't believe you are messing with all this when from what I am reading from your first message post that your engine is not even broken in properly. Nitro car engines are very delicate when first starting before proper break in. I own 2 R/C aircraft and their engines (OS) are much different than my car engines. I hope you didn't already damage anything. Please read
http://www.rc411.com/howto/enginebreak-01.html
before you go any further.
http://www.rc411.com/howto/enginebreak-01.html
before you go any further.
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Maybe it just wasn't meant to be?
I would guess that you'd have to richen the mixture screws after pulling out the restrictor because the engine will be pulling in more air.
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Grampi:
Great to hear you got it going, its not as hard as it seems and is often something simple that has been overlooked.
Crash me over:
I read back over the thread and I don't see my initial post out of line at all with comments like:
Considering that you can damage a new engine by simply turning it over by hand, we can assume that letting the starter wheel speed up before dumping the car on it will damage the engine.
Grampi prevailed and did get it going but my point being to any beginners reading this thread to get some help if you are having real issues. Any Damage of this type done to an engine usually wont surface until later when questions as to why the engine didn't last very long come up.
At this point in this case we should ask ourselves if a proper break in was followed and if the needles are set correctly.
Hunter:
Originally posted by Hunter
You are correct and I would not expect someone to run to the shop with every little problem. My take on this here was that Grampi was about to toss the car out the window.
The title of the post is also very leading as to the state of frustration, and we all know we have been there before.
Bonefrost:
Originally posted by Bonefrost
Its a shame that so many hobby shops are this way these days, in most cases they wont even support you in a defective product and tell you to go back to the manufacturer yourself.
Then shop owners wonder why the on-line shops get all the money and so forth. This could be on its own topic so I wont go into any further but we all know the value of a good local hobby shop, support them if you have a good one.
To Close, I think the forums are great for information and helping people out. In this case I think Grampi had enough previous experience to get things going on his own. Thing is that beginners are sometimes not as successful as grampi and end up needing help, in these cases advice can be detrimental to the case because a beginner has no idea whats the right and wrong approach. Especially when you see "I never should have bought this car".
Take it to someone that knows how to remedy the problem and get you on your way, even if it means making a trip 50 miles down the road. That trip is cheaper than a new engine.
Dbow
Great to hear you got it going, its not as hard as it seems and is often something simple that has been overlooked.
Crash me over:
I read back over the thread and I don't see my initial post out of line at all with comments like:
Originally posted by grampi
Maybe something is telling me I shouldn't have gotten this RC 10GT, or any RC car for that matter. Everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong so far.
Maybe something is telling me I shouldn't have gotten this RC 10GT, or any RC car for that matter. Everything that could go wrong, has gone wrong so far.
Originally posted by grampi
But like I said, the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn the engine over. When I press the flywheel against the starter box wheel (after it's spinning of course) it just stops.
But like I said, the starter box doesn't have enough torque to turn the engine over. When I press the flywheel against the starter box wheel (after it's spinning of course) it just stops.
Grampi prevailed and did get it going but my point being to any beginners reading this thread to get some help if you are having real issues. Any Damage of this type done to an engine usually wont surface until later when questions as to why the engine didn't last very long come up.
At this point in this case we should ask ourselves if a proper break in was followed and if the needles are set correctly.
Hunter:
Originally posted by Hunter
see dbow You cant just run to the hobby store every time u have a problem but u are right about it some times.
The title of the post is also very leading as to the state of frustration, and we all know we have been there before.
Bonefrost:
Originally posted by Bonefrost
My local hobby shop said they only sell 'em not work on 'em.And since I didn't buy the car from them they were less than helpful.
Then shop owners wonder why the on-line shops get all the money and so forth. This could be on its own topic so I wont go into any further but we all know the value of a good local hobby shop, support them if you have a good one.
To Close, I think the forums are great for information and helping people out. In this case I think Grampi had enough previous experience to get things going on his own. Thing is that beginners are sometimes not as successful as grampi and end up needing help, in these cases advice can be detrimental to the case because a beginner has no idea whats the right and wrong approach. Especially when you see "I never should have bought this car".
Take it to someone that knows how to remedy the problem and get you on your way, even if it means making a trip 50 miles down the road. That trip is cheaper than a new engine.
Dbow
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Maybe it just wasn't meant to be?
Dbow....No argument here. In fact in other posts where the person states clearly "I AM A NEWBIE" I ask them if they live near a hobby shop or someone who is experienced with RC rigs to get help from them.
I've seen others in grampi's situation "more with airplanes" and offered similar suggetions as was offered here by many. Leaving it to them to do the things required to get it going. Not only does this help them gain confidence but also enables them to know that others can help if needed.
It's like when I was rasing my children. When they were young....I offered young peoples answers. As they grew in age and mentality...they needed deeper explanations.
The one thing I always appreciate here is the willingness of people to be helpful. If I offer a suggestion that isn't quite on the mark...I know others who have the exact answer will help....and offer it freely...then the person needing help wins.
Thanks for your input and feedback. Once again...we all win!
I've seen others in grampi's situation "more with airplanes" and offered similar suggetions as was offered here by many. Leaving it to them to do the things required to get it going. Not only does this help them gain confidence but also enables them to know that others can help if needed.
It's like when I was rasing my children. When they were young....I offered young peoples answers. As they grew in age and mentality...they needed deeper explanations.
The one thing I always appreciate here is the willingness of people to be helpful. If I offer a suggestion that isn't quite on the mark...I know others who have the exact answer will help....and offer it freely...then the person needing help wins.
Thanks for your input and feedback. Once again...we all win!