Am I ready..and for what?
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Am I ready..and for what?
Looking to step-up to the sweet smell of JetA. Without going through my whole flying career I can highlight some points. I'm a safe pilot and do not take risks with my aircraft. It's been years since I've put one in the ground (I fly couple times @ week).
Hotliners/Pylon-F5B
Large scale warbirds
EDF
IMAC Inter.
Heli.
Yes.... I could go out and buy a rookie, or even a euro-sport. Are these type of aircraft the only options?
What about a JL hawk or a stock FB F-15? I'm not talking about an F-5 or a loaded down F-18, just looking for opinions from folks that have flown some of these aircraft. I would be able to get stick time with a high time instuctor. It seems like the subject of jets has this aura of magic around it, sort of like heli's had in the early days. The extra safety factor can't be compared to other areas of the sport, but is the skill required to fly anything other that a DV8R left to the guys with nerves of steel and a 100+ of jet hours? Are there some compromise aircraft out there that have some scale appeal and are reasonably flyable. Just looking for something I won't be listing on RCU in the next 6mos. becuse I've outgrown it (done that too many times in the past).
If there is a good thread on this already, please let me know. We need a "Beginner/intermediate/Advance" rating (as it applies to turbine aircraft) on offerings from manufacturers. Saying they're all tough is not helpfull, and most likely inaccurate.
Thanks for your imput,
Mike
Sarasota, FL
Hotliners/Pylon-F5B
Large scale warbirds
EDF
IMAC Inter.
Heli.
Yes.... I could go out and buy a rookie, or even a euro-sport. Are these type of aircraft the only options?
What about a JL hawk or a stock FB F-15? I'm not talking about an F-5 or a loaded down F-18, just looking for opinions from folks that have flown some of these aircraft. I would be able to get stick time with a high time instuctor. It seems like the subject of jets has this aura of magic around it, sort of like heli's had in the early days. The extra safety factor can't be compared to other areas of the sport, but is the skill required to fly anything other that a DV8R left to the guys with nerves of steel and a 100+ of jet hours? Are there some compromise aircraft out there that have some scale appeal and are reasonably flyable. Just looking for something I won't be listing on RCU in the next 6mos. becuse I've outgrown it (done that too many times in the past).
If there is a good thread on this already, please let me know. We need a "Beginner/intermediate/Advance" rating (as it applies to turbine aircraft) on offerings from manufacturers. Saying they're all tough is not helpfull, and most likely inaccurate.
Thanks for your imput,
Mike
Sarasota, FL
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RE: Am I ready..and for what?
Skymaster F-15 is a very smooth, easy plane to fly. I started my jet career with a SpiderJets F-16 which was great in the air, however the landings were a big challenge to me. Now I fly the F15 and my shoulders are much lower - take-offs, flying and landings are easy, predictable and fun! I have a Simjet 3000 installed (30 pounds of thrust) - but it will fly with much less and is a joy to assemble.
Link to my maiden here:
http://www.av-art.no/filer/modellfly
Good luck!
Tor
Link to my maiden here:
http://www.av-art.no/filer/modellfly
Good luck!
Tor
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RE: Am I ready..and for what?
Any of this would be an excelent choice for starters, F-15, F-16, Hawk, L-39. I personally fly the F-16 1/8 and it is an awesome flyer, very easy... Also it is very fun to fly as it is very aerobatic and can perfrom extremelly well with a 14lbs turbine like the Super Bee.
Here is a video of mine in the maiden day.
http://www.jetsrc.com/videos/F-16_18_JetsRC.wmv
Michel
Here is a video of mine in the maiden day.
http://www.jetsrc.com/videos/F-16_18_JetsRC.wmv
Michel
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RE: Am I ready..and for what?
I would suggest same list, but more power in some cases, depending on the lenght of the runway.
The F-16 could be more dificult to handdle in a grass runways due to its narrow landing gear, but I have seen guys fly F-16 in grass runways many times.
Michel
The F-16 could be more dificult to handdle in a grass runways due to its narrow landing gear, but I have seen guys fly F-16 in grass runways many times.
Michel
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RE: Am I ready..and for what?
I am a fan of scale aircraft but for my first turbine I chose a Hot Spot and I am glad I did. Get a simple airplane to learn the systems (how to install and operate them) get familiar with flying a turbine, and then step up to something more scale that can use the same engine as your first bird.
My next plane was a BVM MiG-15 and I can't stop saying good things about it. It's a dream to fly and work on.
The "starter" plane helps also with the nerves because you won't have as much tied up in it and it will be easier to fix if something goes wrong.
Have fun!!
Mark West
Salt Lake City, Utah
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My next plane was a BVM MiG-15 and I can't stop saying good things about it. It's a dream to fly and work on.
The "starter" plane helps also with the nerves because you won't have as much tied up in it and it will be easier to fix if something goes wrong.
Have fun!!
Mark West
Salt Lake City, Utah
Fly NIFA
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RE: Am I ready..and for what?
The fact that you have large warbird experience I think is the most relevant. One of the hardest things to learn in flying jets is the added weight and carrying throttle all the way to the ground. Heavy airplane experience is the best teacher in this regard.
If you want your first bird to be scale, go with an F15. It is more forgiving than the 18s and 16s and is a better crosswind bird when you are first learning turbines. The Avonds, Yellow and Skymaster F15s are all great choices.
There are many good choices if you want a sport jet. My recommendation would be a Lightning. Flies great, cost is reasonable, good short field performance, great in adverse weather. Looks like a scale plane too.
As others have said, flying the turbines isn't that much of a change. It does put a premium on your maintenance habits, however, as a careless screw up in the equipment area can have significant financial consequences.
Good luck!
If you want your first bird to be scale, go with an F15. It is more forgiving than the 18s and 16s and is a better crosswind bird when you are first learning turbines. The Avonds, Yellow and Skymaster F15s are all great choices.
There are many good choices if you want a sport jet. My recommendation would be a Lightning. Flies great, cost is reasonable, good short field performance, great in adverse weather. Looks like a scale plane too.
As others have said, flying the turbines isn't that much of a change. It does put a premium on your maintenance habits, however, as a careless screw up in the equipment area can have significant financial consequences.
Good luck!