Air compressor and paint gun
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Air compressor and paint gun
Hello,
I just bought a siphon-feed spary gun from Campbell Hausfeld on sale. It requires 40 psi but the air flow requirements is 7.0 scfm. I looked at air compressors and the most you can get is 4 scfm at 40 psi even for a model at $300. I was wondering how people get the right air flow and air pressure?
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Le fou
I just bought a siphon-feed spary gun from Campbell Hausfeld on sale. It requires 40 psi but the air flow requirements is 7.0 scfm. I looked at air compressors and the most you can get is 4 scfm at 40 psi even for a model at $300. I was wondering how people get the right air flow and air pressure?
Thank you,
Le fou
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I run a 80 gal 10 horse 2 stage. When painting with a siphon feed gun, a small air compressor just don`t have the volume. On small projects you well still have to wait for air build up.
If your painting planes, try a small detail HVLP gun instead , sprays at a lower pressure, less over spray. I used a Craftsman 6.0 horse 30 gal. with a detailed gun, worked o.k kinda. The small one`s throw a lot of moisture.
With the gun you have you need at lest 45lbs. pressure at a constant 7 cfm.
If your painting planes, try a small detail HVLP gun instead , sprays at a lower pressure, less over spray. I used a Craftsman 6.0 horse 30 gal. with a detailed gun, worked o.k kinda. The small one`s throw a lot of moisture.
With the gun you have you need at lest 45lbs. pressure at a constant 7 cfm.
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RE: Air compressor and paint gun
I was under the impression that the compressor is not the problem but the regulator.
The regulator has to be able to regulate 40PSI at the required flow.
Just buy another regulator for the compressor. Can be an inline one.
The regulator has to be able to regulate 40PSI at the required flow.
Just buy another regulator for the compressor. Can be an inline one.
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RE: Air compressor and paint gun
Thank you for all you replies. I was planning to use latex, enamel and perhaps automotive paint. I got a very good deal on this spray gun but if the cost of buying a bigger compressor or a new regulator makes this spray gun more expensive than an HVLP or gravity feed, I rather get one of those. What king of spray gun works the best with an entry priced compressor ($70 to $100)?
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Le fou
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RE: Air compressor and paint gun
Porter Cable 6 SCFM , 3HP compressor (from Lowes)
Paasche VL Air Brush
Badger 400 Touch-up Spray Gun
Water Seperator/Regulator @ 30psi
Sprays everything I have run through it.
Paasche VL Air Brush
Badger 400 Touch-up Spray Gun
Water Seperator/Regulator @ 30psi
Sprays everything I have run through it.
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4CFM is going to limit you to small detail guns for extended spray sessions. Trying to use a larger gun with a higher CFM requirement is going to have a few repercussions. The gun will be starved for air and will not atomize the paint very well. The compressor will constantly run attempting to keep up with the air demand the gun is putting on it. Moisture ( lots of it ) will be the end result.
Detail guns work great for painting planes, they hold the right amount of paint and are easy to manipulate. The only thing I disagree with moondoggie on is to get a standard detail gun, not an HVLP if you will be using a small compressor. The "HV" stands for high volume, as in the air supply, something you don't have. Standard guns atomize with air pressure rather than air volume. You will get more overspray, but the gun will work better with a smaller air supply.
Dan
Detail guns work great for painting planes, they hold the right amount of paint and are easy to manipulate. The only thing I disagree with moondoggie on is to get a standard detail gun, not an HVLP if you will be using a small compressor. The "HV" stands for high volume, as in the air supply, something you don't have. Standard guns atomize with air pressure rather than air volume. You will get more overspray, but the gun will work better with a smaller air supply.
Dan
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RE: Air compressor and paint gun
I would recommend you get a Disposable in-line desiccant air dryer to use when you paint. They will have them at your better paint stores, run around 10 bucks or so and keep oil and water out of your paint. They work great.
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Hello,
Thank you for all your replies. Can you tell me what following spray gun you would get?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47016
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92126
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46719
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=43430
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90977
Thank you for your help,
Le fou
Thank you for all your replies. Can you tell me what following spray gun you would get?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47016
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92126
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=46719
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=43430
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90977
Thank you for your help,
Le fou
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It takes air that has be vaporized to travel 36 feet before it condenses back to a liquid. If you mount your water trap right off these little compressors you well have a huge water problem.
The way to get around this is to coil a 50ft hose from the air compressor into a 5 gal bucket of cold water, put a little ice in. Attach your water filter to the end of the hose as it comes out of the bucket, then attach your spray line to the water trap. By the time the air gets to the trap, it has condensed back to a liquid and your trap will work very well.
I`ve done custom painting for many years and know this works for sure.
The way to get around this is to coil a 50ft hose from the air compressor into a 5 gal bucket of cold water, put a little ice in. Attach your water filter to the end of the hose as it comes out of the bucket, then attach your spray line to the water trap. By the time the air gets to the trap, it has condensed back to a liquid and your trap will work very well.
I`ve done custom painting for many years and know this works for sure.
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RE: Air compressor and paint gun
My setup - which has been used for cars as well as planes consists of a Sears compressor such as this http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...cemldffidfko.0 which I have had since 1974 (completely trouble free) along with a regulated water trap. For painting planes I use http://www.cpocampbellhausfeld.com/a...ns/dh5500.html I personally like getting a brand name item instead of those from Harbor Freight, especially since the prices are basically the same as in this case. I got the spray gun at Lowe's.