Set the record straight for California jets 2007!!
04-08-2007, 02:03 AM
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Set the record straight for California jets 2007!!
It was relayed to me that on Saturday or sunday of California jet 2007 there was an announcement that some pilots did NOT pay the fee to fly at the event. My name, I was told, was one of them. I am sure it was an honest mistake since I did pay on Thursday....some people checked and verified that I did pay and I thank you for checking.
Kenny and his staff did a great job to provide us with a relaxing and enjoyable event...Thx guys and girls!!!
For next year, Can we have Gatorade for purchase and some running water please
. There are those portable hand washing stations that can be rented.
Kenny and his staff did a great job to provide us with a relaxing and enjoyable event...Thx guys and girls!!!
For next year, Can we have Gatorade for purchase and some running water please
. There are those portable hand washing stations that can be rented.
04-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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Ahab, are you requesting the Gatorade brand? We had a simular drink for sale at the food stand. We also had three of the members offer their trailer sinks for hand and face washing. I'm sorry you were not informed.
Thanks for coming,
Doug
Thanks for coming,
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04-08-2007, 10:41 AM
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RE: Set the record straight for California jets 2007!!
Hi Doug; any Gatorade "type" is fine with me.
It was great to fly with all the guys!!
It was great to fly with all the guys!!
04-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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RE: Set the record straight for California jets 2007!!
wah!
would you like someone to wipe your planes down and was you steak cooked to your liking my king?. 
would you like someone to wipe your planes down and was you steak cooked to your liking my king?.
04-08-2007, 11:43 AM
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Ehab, as I understood it the names called were not for reg fees but for people that had marked down that they would be going to the banquet but had not paid the banquet fees. Scott
PS i always have a large plastic bin of baby butt wipes if you need some
PS i always have a large plastic bin of baby butt wipes if you need some
04-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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Ehab, as I understood it the names called were not for reg fees but for people that had marked down that they would be going to the banquet but had not paid the banquet fees. Scott
Ehab, as I understood it the names called were not for reg fees but for people that had marked down that they would be going to the banquet but had not paid the banquet fees. Scott
After Ehab's name was called as having not paid for registration, I checked with Kenny et al so that I'd go collect the fees from him later if need be (since he'd already left the event by EOD Friday), but when we dug the paperwork out it confirmed that Ehab had actually paid in full.
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04-08-2007, 01:18 PM
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Yes, it was for banquet fees Ehab. Had you indicated you would be attending the banquet? We set the record straight right then and there. Whoever came running to tell you that we announced your missing registration fees should have added that we corrected it in virtually the same sentence.
Next year we'll get one of those sink/wash stations...good idea.
Next year we'll get one of those sink/wash stations...good idea.
04-08-2007, 01:38 PM
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Yes, it was for banquet fees Ehab. Had you indicated you would be attending the banquet? We set the record straight right then and there. Whoever came running to tell you that we announced your missing registration fees should have added that we corrected it in virtually the same sentence.
Yes, it was for banquet fees Ehab. Had you indicated you would be attending the banquet? We set the record straight right then and there. Whoever came running to tell you that we announced your missing registration fees should have added that we corrected it in virtually the same sentence.
Even at the banquet on Saturday night, the question of Ehab's payment of registration fees cropped up AGAIN from a couple of people, until Kenny found the "missing" pilot registration paperwork and confirmed that Ehab had paid.
I don't fault Ehab at all for wanting to clear his name after it was so publicly announced that he had failed to pay his registration fees. I think that's just one of those little glitches that we could learn to handle a little better for next year - don't use a PA system to announce "Hey - you guys failed to pay your money for <whatever>" - instead just announce "Will the following pilots please contact the registration desk / impound". That way, if we get it wrong again, there's no problem. Hindsight's 20-20 of course, so let's just learn from this for next time.
Gordon
04-08-2007, 02:22 PM
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I am sorry that some peoples names were called out on the PA. It was late on Saturday and the banquet was coming up soon, the lady that was helping with the banquet list was trying to get everyone in. It could have been done differently and will next year.
I had a request early in the event for some Gatorade. My wife made a special trip to the store that night and bought "Powerade". It didn't last very long. next year it will be on the list.
As for water stations, I will look into getting something out there for next year.
Again Sorry to Ehab and everyone else that were "called out".
I had a request early in the event for some Gatorade. My wife made a special trip to the store that night and bought "Powerade". It didn't last very long. next year it will be on the list.
As for water stations, I will look into getting something out there for next year.
Again Sorry to Ehab and everyone else that were "called out".
04-08-2007, 04:01 PM
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Thanks Kenny ... I think that small adjustment will be all that it takes. BTW, Ehab isn't looking to 'bash' anyone with his post - he just doesn't want his fellow jet jocks to think ill of him by believing that he's a 'freeloader'.
IMO, there are plenty of long established events out there, with substantially less participants to manage, that make some significant mistakes on a regular bass. Given that CA-Jets is still such a new event (only in it's 2nd year) and has already become so large, we really ought to be seeing a lot more 'gotchas' than the one or two simple little issues like this ; the fact that so few snags have cropped up is a tremendous testament to the enormous amount and quality of effort that you and your small group of helpers has poured into the event. Your willingness to acknowledge & adjust is also much appreciated, as it would also be totally understandable for you to be defensive in situations like this.
Thanks again for a great event,
Gordon
IMO, there are plenty of long established events out there, with substantially less participants to manage, that make some significant mistakes on a regular bass. Given that CA-Jets is still such a new event (only in it's 2nd year) and has already become so large, we really ought to be seeing a lot more 'gotchas' than the one or two simple little issues like this ; the fact that so few snags have cropped up is a tremendous testament to the enormous amount and quality of effort that you and your small group of helpers has poured into the event. Your willingness to acknowledge & adjust is also much appreciated, as it would also be totally understandable for you to be defensive in situations like this.
Thanks again for a great event,
Gordon
04-08-2007, 10:41 PM
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Well I was DJ'ing at the time and was asked to make the announcement and handed the list, so I already fealt bad when told imediately that is was for the banquet. I wasn't that involved in the goings on and just assumed they meant Reg. Fees...so it's really all my fault. I should have just stiuck to playing and demanding that the "CA JETS...the Soundtrack" be annoyingly loud and ever present. I'm still waiting for that thread to be developed...I know it's coming At any rate, I do hope that my immediate retraction/correction was only missed by a very small few, but based on what Gordon said, I certainly don't blame Ehab for wanting the record straightened.
Do accept my apologies bro.
Paul
at the time and was asked to make the announcement and handed the list, so I already fealt bad when told imediately that is was for the banquet. I wasn't that involved in the goings on and just assumed they meant Reg. Fees...so it's really all my fault. I should have just stiuck to playing and demanding that the "CA JETS...the Soundtrack" be annoyingly loud and ever present. I'm still waiting for that thread to be developed...I know it's coming At any rate, I do hope that my immediate retraction/correction was only missed by a very small few, but based on what Gordon said, I certainly don't blame Ehab for wanting the record straightened.Do accept my apologies bro.
Paul
04-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Its Ehab,,,,,,,,,,,, not Ahab
ORIGINAL: rcdoug
Ahab, are you requesting the Gatorade brand? We had a simular drink for sale at the food stand. We also had three of the members offer their trailer sinks for hand and face washing. I'm sorry you were not informed.
Thanks for coming,
Doug
Ahab, are you requesting the Gatorade brand? We had a simular drink for sale at the food stand. We also had three of the members offer their trailer sinks for hand and face washing. I'm sorry you were not informed.
Thanks for coming,
Doug
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I am sorry that some peoples names were called out on the PA. It was late on Saturday and the banquet was coming up soon, the lady that was helping with the banquet list was trying to get everyone in. It could have been done differently and will next year.
I had a request early in the event for some Gatorade. My wife made a special trip to the store that night and bought "Powerade". It didn't last very long. next year it will be on the list.
As for water stations, I will look into getting something out there for next year.
Again Sorry to Ehab and everyone else that were "called out".
I am sorry that some peoples names were called out on the PA. It was late on Saturday and the banquet was coming up soon, the lady that was helping with the banquet list was trying to get everyone in. It could have been done differently and will next year.
I had a request early in the event for some Gatorade. My wife made a special trip to the store that night and bought "Powerade". It didn't last very long. next year it will be on the list.
As for water stations, I will look into getting something out there for next year.
Again Sorry to Ehab and everyone else that were "called out".
Again, Great show and great staff.
04-08-2007, 10:55 PM
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If there was any such correction announced, it was missed by a great many people. Several people reacted to the announcement with comments like "What ? Ehab's left already, and he didn't pay up - that aint right." -- which is why I followed up on it, offering to pay Ehab's fee if necessary and recover it from him later if he had somehow forgotten to pay.
Even at the banquet on Saturday night, the question of Ehab's payment of registration fees cropped up AGAIN from a couple of people, until Kenny found the "missing" pilot registration paperwork and confirmed that Ehab had paid.
I don't fault Ehab at all for wanting to clear his name after it was so publicly announced that he had failed to pay his registration fees. I think that's just one of those little glitches that we could learn to handle a little better for next year - don't use a PA system to announce "Hey - you guys failed to pay your money for <whatever>" - instead just announce "Will the following pilots please contact the registration desk / impound". That way, if we get it wrong again, there's no problem. Hindsight's 20-20 of course, so let's just learn from this for next time.
Gordon
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Yes, it was for banquet fees Ehab. Had you indicated you would be attending the banquet? We set the record straight right then and there. Whoever came running to tell you that we announced your missing registration fees should have added that we corrected it in virtually the same sentence.
Yes, it was for banquet fees Ehab. Had you indicated you would be attending the banquet? We set the record straight right then and there. Whoever came running to tell you that we announced your missing registration fees should have added that we corrected it in virtually the same sentence.
Even at the banquet on Saturday night, the question of Ehab's payment of registration fees cropped up AGAIN from a couple of people, until Kenny found the "missing" pilot registration paperwork and confirmed that Ehab had paid.
I don't fault Ehab at all for wanting to clear his name after it was so publicly announced that he had failed to pay his registration fees. I think that's just one of those little glitches that we could learn to handle a little better for next year - don't use a PA system to announce "Hey - you guys failed to pay your money for <whatever>" - instead just announce "Will the following pilots please contact the registration desk / impound". That way, if we get it wrong again, there's no problem. Hindsight's 20-20 of course, so let's just learn from this for next time.
Gordon
