Delta Mike

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Can anyone give me any info on vectred thrust nozzle hardware.

Thanks for any help here.

Dennis

lov2flyrc

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A bit more explanation of what your looking for would help? Are you looking for the Nozzle or the hardware to connect up th linkage?

seanreit

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My favorite:

http://dreamworksrc.com/catalog/prod...roducts_id=860

Delta Mike

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Yes, BOTH.

lov2flyrc

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Dennis, we carry two versions of a vectored nozzle. We suggest 4/40 (or the hanger 9 titanium) rods and ball links for linkage connection, both units already provide the attachment points for linkage.

Delta Mike

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Todd, do you have any pictures of it installed? Your set up looks good. Dennis

seanreit

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Here's pics:
Video:

http://www.my87.com/video/rookie/seanrookie.wmv




Video:

http://www.my87.com/video/rookie/seanrookie.wmv

docgboy

Sean,
I am installing the same vector nozzle to my RookieII, but with a new Titan SE. I am wondering if your tube is bolted to the former or just tight aroun tthe turbine. When I install mine the wings of the tube set above the former due to the offset in the turbine mount. Also, is there a rule for the distance into the nozzle the exhaust should be. Looking at your it looks like you have back as far as possible.
thanks
Scott B

seanreit

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I would use a different mount for the jetcat, or install it so it is lower, and just jig it up to be inline. Actually the more I think about it, I would use pipe clamps and maybe BV's engine mount on the front, and then the nozzle clamp on the back. Yes, I only used the nozzle clamp to mount the nozzle to the engine, and to the former. I set the placement so that in no condition could the nozzle come lower than the exhaust cone (It would hit it only). This way I know I'm safe from deflecting hot gas inside the airplane.

i3dm

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Which other airplanes besides the rookie are good for a 2 axis thrust vectoring system ?

i recently got back from Gemany after watching ralf Losemann and his partner Enrico with their scratch built XJ10 with P160 SE - it was UN BELIEVEABLE !! he was doing full blown 3D with it, flips, harriers, torque rolls !!!

seanreit

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Any airplane you can mount the turbine in the back.

A lot of jets can be modified to accept this nozzle. The ones that come to mind are:

Eurofighter
Mirage
F-16's
Rafale
F-15 (that's a stretch)

Likai

If you use them in a twin engines plane and the distance between two engines is large enough, not only Pitch and Yaw you can get extra Roll-Control. This is what I want to do in a prototype Su-37.

i3dm

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any idea which planes can be modified for full blown 3D like Ralf Losemann's ? besides his own scratch XJ10 of course.

seanreit

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In the right hands, the rookie will do a lot of that.

i3dm

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Sean, what kins of angles are you getting on the nozzle ? i recall Ralf's nozzle had at least 45 degrees in each direction !

Also, is there a video of a Rookie doing some 3D anywhere ? or any other models for that matter ?

seanreit

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=41gu44S99S4

saramos

Too short a clip! I wish it had shown the transition into the hover.

i3dm

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This is very nice, but not quite what i had hoped to see.

After seeing Ralf's plane do harriers, torquerolls and mainly FLIPS and flat spins with changing direction - my heart is set on building a 3D jet as well, and im really kicking my head about which jet to get.

Ralf's plane has a P160 SE turbine (kero start) - any idea which engine is in that rookie or who's the pilot \ owner ?

weasel33

How about this one from http://www.sebart.it/!-html/hot-news.htm
Brian

seanreit

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Todd, if you're reading this, that guy beat us to it!

i3dm

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Sean, would you rate your rookie as completely 3D capable for the manuvers i mentioned?
What kind of angle can you get on the nozzle ?

there's also this unit BTW :

Go to www.adjets.com - turbines - jetcat - close to the bottom of the page there's what appers to be the unit on this Mig 29 ?

seanreit

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Dude, I think you should just get one and see for yourself. I don't think any of our jets are "3d" capable. The airplane will do some wicked stuff, but you're never gonna torque roll a jet. Nobody but Eddie Weeks would be able to engineer it to happen. You are welcome to prove me wrong.

As for angle of the unit, I don't know, never measure it. But my Rookie will spin on its ass continually all the way to ground and never move left or right.

i3dm

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I do not know Eddie Weeks but did you see Ralf Losemann's demo from Joe Nall 07 ? there was a video on the FG site.

BTW - which other planes besides the Rookie have the turbine mounted in the back to make them appropriate for Vector Thrust ?

and one last thing Sean, which turbine did you use in yours ? i think a P160SE would be needed to haul the Rookie really good !

seanreit

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I've flown Rookie II's on Rhinos, Merlins, Eagle's, Titan's, P-120's, P-70's.

Obviously the most vertical was the Rhino/ Merlin. But overall, the best engine is the Eagle.

P70 got the job done just fine for flying around and saying "Ooooohhh, I'm flying a Jet".

i3dm

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Sean, who makes that thrust vectoring system you recommended ?