Slowing down a rookie ll
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Slowing down a rookie ll
I test flew my new rookie II on Sunday successfully. It flew quite well, but with the bright sun sitting low in the sky this time of year and our flight line facing south it was tough to keep her out of the sun. I have a Jetcat TitanSe in her and fourway thrust vectoring installed. The only thing I would like to improve is slowing down the plane for landing. I am only using the speed brake which I have about 80degrees of throw.
I am considering using both the speed brake and canard braking together. However, I am very intimidated by the looks of the canard braking. seeing those canards at a 85 degree down deflection doesn't seem right.
Does anyone have experience with this that could lend some advise.
Scott
I am considering using both the speed brake and canard braking together. However, I am very intimidated by the looks of the canard braking. seeing those canards at a 85 degree down deflection doesn't seem right.
Does anyone have experience with this that could lend some advise.
Scott
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RE: Slowing down a rookie ll
I have to agree with Sean, use the canard braking. It is very effective and nothing to be intimidated about.
The rookie is not the easiest plane to land and with large engine residual thrust, canard braking is pretty much necessary to get the speed bled off.
The rookie is not the easiest plane to land and with large engine residual thrust, canard braking is pretty much necessary to get the speed bled off.
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RE: Slowing down a rookie ll
I use the letter box deployed together with crow braking, very effective even with Rhino power. the main thing is to anticipate and start bleeding energy early in the landing circuit.
Rob.
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P120 in mine. Using both the bottom speed brake and sometimes esp. in calm days also canards. If using canards, be sure you have lots of elevator movement and don't cut power off too early. Otherwise it will drop like a dead duck...don't ask how I know...with some power, flies fine though even with canards braking!
Btw. using canard braking seems to radically reduce the famous bouncing tendency, anyone noticed the same? - that is even with same landing speed. Forward lift is ofcourse less with canards 'deployed'...
Btw. using canard braking seems to radically reduce the famous bouncing tendency, anyone noticed the same? - that is even with same landing speed. Forward lift is ofcourse less with canards 'deployed'...
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Scott, keep practicing the landings with the bottom speed brake. Don't screw with canard braking so early into your new jet. Eventually you'll figure out the flying characteristics with the Rookie II and you'll be able to land it without any speed brakes. The trick it to get it at the right angle of attack and the right speed setting in the turn for final. Flare is also key. Take the time to do some touch-and-go's during a flight to get used to judging the rate of decent to the runway. Good luck.
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Absolutely agree with Airforce7's comment above! If you have the CG back enough, it will slow down even with no brakes at all! On the other hand with forward CG the plane just keeps it's speed and floats on...
With brake AND canards AND rearward CG you can make some showstopping short landings though...
With brake AND canards AND rearward CG you can make some showstopping short landings though...
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RE: Slowing down a rookie ll
Do at least two inspection passes with the speedbrake on and gear down just for bleed out speed for landing.... this helps a lot to get used to the right speed and attitude of the jet for this critical phase of the flight.
also the speed brake at 90 degrees instead 80 makes a lot of difference!
Good luck, Enrique
also the speed brake at 90 degrees instead 80 makes a lot of difference!
Good luck, Enrique
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RE: Slowing down a rookie ll
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Do at least two inspection passes with the speedbrake on and gear down just for bleed out speed for landing.... this helps a lot to get used to the right speed and attitude of the jet for this critical phase of the flight.
also the speed brake at 90 degrees instead 80 makes a lot of difference!
Good luck, Enrique
Do at least two inspection passes with the speedbrake on and gear down just for bleed out speed for landing.... this helps a lot to get used to the right speed and attitude of the jet for this critical phase of the flight.
also the speed brake at 90 degrees instead 80 makes a lot of difference!
Good luck, Enrique