MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
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MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
Yeh it's me. Okay educate me. I am noticing that ESC come in different amp sizes. So do motors. The one I happen to have coming complimentary to the kit is a brushless 3500kv with a fan (whatever that is suppose to mean). So how do we properly match al this up?
I also notice some motors have 3 sets of numbers describing it. What is all that?
Voltage regulators?
I also notice some motors have 3 sets of numbers describing it. What is all that?
Voltage regulators?
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RE: MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover
Yeh it's me. Okay educate me. I am noticing that ESC come in different amp sizes. So do motors. The one I happen to have coming complimentary to the kit is a brushless 3500kv with a fan (whatever that is suppose to mean). So how do we properly match al this up?
I also notice some motors have 3 sets of numbers describing it. What is all that?
Voltage regulators?
Yeh it's me. Okay educate me. I am noticing that ESC come in different amp sizes. So do motors. The one I happen to have coming complimentary to the kit is a brushless 3500kv with a fan (whatever that is suppose to mean). So how do we properly match al this up?
I also notice some motors have 3 sets of numbers describing it. What is all that?
Voltage regulators?
Sounds like you have the HDX 3500kv with fan coming. Its an outrunner, with integrated fan on the top of the motor. Different than the Align inrunner fan setup, which is nicer.
As for the windings,guage figures, i've never really looked into those. Most are rated at KV now, which is a whole lot easier.
If someone know the formula for the 3 number set, speak up please, i would love to know.
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Okay this is good, thanks. makes sense as if it were lower , the motor would kill it. How much higher? Now I just went to look at the motor thatmight be coming, it says 3500kv with a max rating of 28amps. this means I need an ESC with a rating higher than that? LIke a 30amp esc?
So we're better off with an "inny, than an outty" for cooling?
So we're better off with an "inny, than an outty" for cooling?
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Yes, or a little higher.
If the specifications say that the motor draws max amps of 28, then a 30 is cutting it close. Look at 35's for that motor, then you'll be sure that the esc does not give up the ghost when your really pushing the motor (which of course is the worst possible time)
35 would do for a name brand or off-brand. Or even splurge for a CC35. then you could run a bigger heli with more motor in the future.
No, i just like the align design better.
If the specifications say that the motor draws max amps of 28, then a 30 is cutting it close. Look at 35's for that motor, then you'll be sure that the esc does not give up the ghost when your really pushing the motor (which of course is the worst possible time)
35 would do for a name brand or off-brand. Or even splurge for a CC35. then you could run a bigger heli with more motor in the future.
No, i just like the align design better.
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RE: MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
It's been my experience that even high end ESC's don't like to be pushed to close to their limit. It's almost always better to buy more than what you need. I've seen enough (and know enough) people with crispy CC controllers to know this to be true.
The weight difference between a 40 versus a 60 or even 80 amp controller is negligible, if you think you'll come close, go higher and be on the safe side!
The weight difference between a 40 versus a 60 or even 80 amp controller is negligible, if you think you'll come close, go higher and be on the safe side!
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Yes, that is actually a popular mod for heli's that contain a 4&1 or even a 3&1. A 2.00 fuse can save a 30+ dollar piece of equipment.
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RE: MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
Those are combined multi unit.
A 4&1 has:
1) RX
2) Mixer
3) ESC
4) Gyro
A 3&1 forgoes the RX. Like this:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/product...roducts_id=247
There are also 2&1, which is a ESC and Mixer. LIke this:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/product...products_id=91
A 4&1 has:
1) RX
2) Mixer
3) ESC
4) Gyro
A 3&1 forgoes the RX. Like this:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/product...roducts_id=247
There are also 2&1, which is a ESC and Mixer. LIke this:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/product...products_id=91
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RE: MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
Yes, the 3&1's, 4&1's and even 2&1's are mostly used for dual motor helis (whether motor driven tail or COAX). Not really a concern for belt/shaft drive.
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RE: MOTOR & ESC LESSON#1
Hardover,
If you are gonna 'cut n paste' my posts to another thread, At least give credit as a quote, or erase the signature.......
Oh, well, what ya gonna expect from the Army?
Semper Fi Army dude,
Splat
If you are gonna 'cut n paste' my posts to another thread, At least give credit as a quote, or erase the signature.......
Oh, well, what ya gonna expect from the Army?
Semper Fi Army dude,
Splat
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Hardover,
If you are gonna 'cut n paste' my posts to another thread, At least give credit as a quote, or erase the signature.......
Oh, well, what ya gonna expect from the Army?
Semper Fi Army dude,
Splat
Hardover,
If you are gonna 'cut n paste' my posts to another thread, At least give credit as a quote, or erase the signature.......
Oh, well, what ya gonna expect from the Army?
Semper Fi Army dude,
Splat
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No offence intended, just ribbing you. I publicly appologize to any and all who might have had thier feelings bruised.
My bad, that's why the call us meatheads......
Splat
My bad, that's why the call us meatheads......
Splat