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Old 08-31-2008, 11:54 AM
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i have a 25 in great shape but the engine is blown rest of the truck in like new i have always keep it very clean because i keep it on my desk in my office. i love the xl but not sure i want to spend 600 on it. i think all i need in the chassis plates 60.00 and a new engine that i need anyway and savage x diffs rear only since most of the power will be sent to the rear not worried about the 7 inch tiers the 25 i have are still good. i could be over looking something, i have never had to take it apart since i got it new when it came out because nothing ever broke, if i need something else please let me know
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

You will need the rear shaft from transmission to rear axle and you will need the XL engine plate, actually, you just need the plate braces. They are cheap on Ebay though. The XL has the longer rear shaft and the new braces are arched in the middle. I suppose you could modify a stock set, but that is already a weak spot in the Savage design. Break an engine plate and then you start chewing up spur gears.

The length is fairly cheap to obtain, getting the XL width is a different story. Bud
Old 08-31-2008, 12:15 PM
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the shaft and engine plater comes with the kit for 60.00 at tower. not worried about making wider just longer i can just get the wheel extenders later in i want
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That is all you will need and depending upon your engine choice, your 25 differential will probably run a long time. There is just a few ounces difference between an XL and a 25. Bud
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

you'll also need the diff cups and drive cups as well as new shafts cuz the bones are thicker

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He is going to run the X differential and off set wheels. It will get you very close to the XL width for a whole lot less money. He said he really was not worried about the width. Bud
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don't really need the fastest engine maybe the f41 will do fine for me . but i cant understand why it 10 bucks cheaper the the 25 could some one tell me. the reason i want to go with the xl chassis is because i will need to take it apart to put the new diff in when i get the more powerful engine so why not spend 60.00 more and get the longer chassis
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[link=http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Savage-X-4-6-Engine-F4-6-F-4-6-Big-Block-HPI_W0QQitemZ360082184544QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 60082184544&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7 C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14]Wow! Look at that![/link] I was going to suggest the F4.6 as I think it is the best of the Hpi big blocks, apparently I am not alone! I have two of those used and one unfired.

[link=http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-SAVAGE-X-4-6-ENGINE-MOTOR-W-CARBURETOR-28-NEW_W0QQitemZ380059909441QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 80059909441&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7 C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14]Here's another![/link]



The F engine is on the right and I bought mine for 109 dollars plus freight on Ebay. That has to be a fluke auction, they are approaching LRP prices which is a super engine as well. Bud
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He is going to run the X differential and off set wheels. It will get you very close to the XL width for a whole lot less money. He said he really was not worried about the width. Bud
missed that my bad

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a good engine from what i've head is the sportwerks sv .26

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f46 it is. will my full clutch assembly from my 25 fit .it still in good shape
Old 08-31-2008, 01:20 PM
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

Don't use the S25 clutch shoes. Get aluminum shoes for it. I use HPI's aluminum shoe setup and it works great.
Old 08-31-2008, 01:26 PM
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Is is a direct drop in, so is the LRP 28, the Sport Werks V2 .26 that the lug mentioned and many others. I would stay away from STS, Axial and the K4.6. I really love the Picco P3, I think it is the best engine on the market for the money. But it carries some baggage that does not cost much to get by, it is just a headache for a casual hobbyist to work through. The F would be a great choice, great power, everything is exactly the same as what you are used to, just a little stronger... make that a lot stronger... That Sport Werks is a very strong little engine... [8D]


[link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGWY3&P=ML]Savage clutch kit[/link] that I always use, but if yours is still good, I guess you might as well save the money. Removing the old flywheel can sometimes be a bigger hassle than it is worth.

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Old 08-31-2008, 01:35 PM
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

You sure about those plastic shoes BB?
Old 08-31-2008, 01:41 PM
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

The ones I recommended or his stock ones? The ones I recommended are the carbon fiber ones. I thought the 25s came with them too. If he has the old 21 design plastic shoes, he will definitely want to just buy the three shoe kit. Bud
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Default RE: 25 to xl worth it

Yeah, stock the S25 came with plastic shoes as did the F 4.1 if I remember right. They work good with those engines, but anything better than those and I'd go wtih aluminum for better performance. I've never used the carbon fiber ones.
Old 08-31-2008, 04:10 PM
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the ones that came in my 25 is carbon looks like the same stuff used on real car drake pads
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HPI must've changed them on the later .25 engines. The shoes on my ancient S25 were most definitely plastic. Change in this case is very good.[8D]

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