RAM 1000
12-01-2008, 04:48 PM
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RAM 1000
Hey All,
I have a RAM 1000 air start that needs a health check for sure. Was wondering if this engine can be made to electric or maybe full auto start?
thanks,.........Perry
I have a RAM 1000 air start that needs a health check for sure. Was wondering if this engine can be made to electric or maybe full auto start?
thanks,.........Perry
12-03-2008, 02:20 AM
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RE: RAM 1000
ORIGINAL: invertmast
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
That's correct. I just talked to Carlos on Monday and he told me that to update an air start Ram 1000 would be around $1,000.00. Can be done though.
Les
12-03-2008, 06:43 AM
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That's correct. I just talked to Carlos on Monday and he told me that to update an air start Ram 1000 would be around $1,000.00. Can be done though.
Les
ORIGINAL: invertmast
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
That's correct. I just talked to Carlos on Monday and he told me that to update an air start Ram 1000 would be around $1,000.00. Can be done though.
Les
12-03-2008, 01:15 PM
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it should not be that hard to do. You should be able to buy ecu ect from gaspar http://www.xicoy.com. you could make or buy starter from jetjoe or other make them for kj66.
12-03-2008, 04:40 PM
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RE: RAM 1000
I am currently converting my RAM 750. Got the jet joe starter which works well. Now going to get the jet joe ECU and convert it my self. Still cost around $5-600
12-03-2008, 05:29 PM
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RE: RAM 1000
You can do it for around $450 or less....
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
12-03-2008, 06:59 PM
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RE: RAM 1000
ORIGINAL: Ruizmilton
You can do it for around $450 or less....
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
You can do it for around $450 or less....
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
12-03-2008, 07:11 PM
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RE: RAM 1000
ORIGINAL: invertmast
that price doesn't include a rebalance since u remove and replace the compressor spinner nut does it?
that price doesn't include a rebalance since u remove and replace the compressor spinner nut does it?
I have my 750 in for the rest of the upgrade, and they're only adding a washer and reusing the original nut. It's like the kit you can buy from Gaspar.
Brg,
Mark
12-03-2008, 07:23 PM
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RE: RAM 1000
If you ask me, a re-balance is recommended, yet if you are carefull enough to not move the compressor or turbine wheel from their positions you should be OK, I have convereted two RAM 750's, on both the compressor was tight in position, so they did not move through the process, remember, reputable WREN kits do not require that you rebalance the rotor assembly as long as you follow the keyed positions, the spinner nut may not always return to the original balance location, but they work perfectly...
12-06-2008, 02:20 AM
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RE: RAM 1000
ORIGINAL: invertmast
i also believe he said that if an electric starter assembly is already in place on the motor (ALA jet-joe) the upgrade price would drop to around $750-800 ish....
ORIGINAL: ama234
That's correct. I just talked to Carlos on Monday and he told me that to update an air start Ram 1000 would be around $1,000.00. Can be done though.
Les
ORIGINAL: invertmast
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
Perry,
it is possible to have it upgraded to full autostart. I inquired about having my air-start 1000 upgraded back in may. and it was around $1000 for just the upgrade.
That's correct. I just talked to Carlos on Monday and he told me that to update an air start Ram 1000 would be around $1,000.00. Can be done though.
Les
That's true but Carlos said it depends on which starter motor it has. If it's not the right motor then it will have to be replaced also which brings the price back up. I just sent him my electric start 1000 which threw a turbine blade. I am hopeful that It can be upgraded for less than a grand as it will already be nearly that much for the repairs alone. [
]Les
Les
12-06-2008, 10:37 AM
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RE: RAM 1000
ORIGINAL: Ruizmilton
You can do it for around $450 or less....
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
You can do it for around $450 or less....
Starter cover(front cover + starter pod)-Modellbau-usa $120.00
Starter assembly (motor+bendix clutch) $28.00
Spinner nut Modellbau-usa $12.00
JJ ECU(more flexible than the RAM ECU) + 2 solenoid valves (JJ) about $280.00..............................
if you use a JJ starter pod, reduce total dollar amount by $70.00
here's a picture of a converted airstart RAM 750:
I would contact Bob Price at RJP Models for a RAM-FTE-Modelbau ECU.
Bob is the man who made them.
12-06-2008, 11:45 AM
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RE: RAM 1000
I haven't heard anything back from Modelbau either... I need a new rear casing for a fte 750...
Do you have a burn though on one of the stator blades? i.e. it looks like someone took a fine cutting torch an cut a slit in the stator.
As a last ditch effort these can be welded by a specialty weld shop
You need to get Inconel 625 RN82 weld rod for the repair; normally this would not be a cheep repair.
My friend had a NGV out of a RAM 1000 with this problem, I consulted my weld engineer at work to select the rod, then my friend took the NGV and the weld rod to a local weld shop that specializes in exotic welding.
After he told the owner the story that the part was out of a model turbine engine the owner said he would take a crack at it, he ended up not charging my friend...what luck
