Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
02-15-2009, 06:44 AM
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Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
I have several air retracts on various planes and I have to say I am fed up with the fill valve leaking.
You can now spend over £20.00 for a simple non return valve and I think this is unacceptable. I have used the chinese ones that come with many retracts and I am fed up with them leaking.
I would therefore share with you all the following very cheap....... Can be free ! excellent alternative. This is not my idea I learnt it of a far better modeler than me.....
All you do is take a trip to you local car tyre firm and ask for some car tyre valves for tubeless tyres....... I am given them free when I get new tyres and I usually come away with a small handfull but at most you will be charged £1 each....... Motorbike ones are nice as they are shorter.
Then just strip off the rubber.......... Solder a nipple into the end of them....... I remove the inner valve to do this...... and there you go a very reliable non return fill valve...... It has the added benefit that it will fit most of our puup ends.
I recon if it is good enough for a car tyre it is good enough for our jets
Nice and cheap and very reliable
Dennis Norman
You can now spend over £20.00 for a simple non return valve and I think this is unacceptable. I have used the chinese ones that come with many retracts and I am fed up with them leaking.
I would therefore share with you all the following very cheap....... Can be free ! excellent alternative. This is not my idea I learnt it of a far better modeler than me.....
All you do is take a trip to you local car tyre firm and ask for some car tyre valves for tubeless tyres....... I am given them free when I get new tyres and I usually come away with a small handfull but at most you will be charged £1 each....... Motorbike ones are nice as they are shorter.
Then just strip off the rubber.......... Solder a nipple into the end of them....... I remove the inner valve to do this...... and there you go a very reliable non return fill valve...... It has the added benefit that it will fit most of our puup ends.
I recon if it is good enough for a car tyre it is good enough for our jets
Nice and cheap and very reliable
Dennis Norman
02-15-2009, 07:34 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
I was going to take a pic but the whole process is so simple took about 10 mins.
Just salvage a nipple from any faied air unit or a metal tee piece make it fit the end of the tyre valve buy crushing it a little with plyers. Solder in, Test and away you go.
Far better than any valve you can buy in our hobby IMHO
Here is a pic of my Falcon 120 with the wheels Dowh which was the motivation to get the valve sorted
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Just salvage a nipple from any faied air unit or a metal tee piece make it fit the end of the tyre valve buy crushing it a little with plyers. Solder in, Test and away you go.
Far better than any valve you can buy in our hobby IMHO
Here is a pic of my Falcon 120 with the wheels Dowh which was the motivation to get the valve sorted
Dennis
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02-15-2009, 09:14 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
Silver solder or tin solder should work. Just test it be for you fit to model.
These valves work and are very reliable
These valves work and are very reliable
02-15-2009, 10:24 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
Tire valves are for 30 psig and retrcts valves are for 100 psig.
Isn't there any problem with overpressuring?
Isn't there any problem with overpressuring?
02-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
I just use ordinary electrical solder and the psi is fine...... I have seen these used on many models and they work very well
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02-15-2009, 02:28 PM
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Tire valves are for 30 psig and retrcts valves are for 100 psig.
Isn't there any problem with overpressuring?
Tire valves are for 30 psig and retrcts valves are for 100 psig.
Isn't there any problem with overpressuring?
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02-15-2009, 04:30 PM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
Well my valve has been holding all day with over 100 psi behind it...... That will do for me............ Someone needs to let BVM know !
http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupsto...?pc=6335&Desc=
Oh and I am sure that was £19.99 before the vat reduced to 15 % from 17.5 % ! so who got that 2.5 % not the chancellor or the Customer ! lol
With the price of things at the moment we all need to save a quid or two
BTW Quid = £1 for you lot over the pond.
Anyone got any other simple money saving ideas....... Other than don't get into jets lol
Dennis
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Oh and I am sure that was £19.99 before the vat reduced to 15 % from 17.5 % ! so who got that 2.5 % not the chancellor or the Customer ! lol
With the price of things at the moment we all need to save a quid or two
BTW Quid = £1 for you lot over the pond.
Anyone got any other simple money saving ideas....... Other than don't get into jets lol
Dennis
02-15-2009, 06:49 PM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
No Dennis we kept the 2.5%! It helped off set the shift in dollar price from 2-1 right down to 1.3-1. Not to mention the rise in shipping costs.
Enjoy your valves. They look very..... interesting!
Luckily for me, and even more so BVM there are allot of guys out there that like the fit and forget peace of mind that a great valve such as the BVM one offers them. After all a £20.00 outlay to protect an investment of thousands is considered wise spending by some ( but not al)l, and thats what makes this hobby so diverse I guess.
Regards Al
Enjoy your valves. They look very..... interesting!
Luckily for me, and even more so BVM there are allot of guys out there that like the fit and forget peace of mind that a great valve such as the BVM one offers them. After all a £20.00 outlay to protect an investment of thousands is considered wise spending by some ( but not al)l, and thats what makes this hobby so diverse I guess.
Regards Al
02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
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a £20.00 outlay to protect an investment of thousands
The only thing bad about bigplumbs' valve? I didn't think about it before buying a Robart one! I have a heap of old bike tubes I use for lashing down models & have been throwing the valve stems away. - John.
02-16-2009, 01:38 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
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No Dennis we kept the 2.5%! It helped off set the shift in dollar price from 2-1 right down to 1.3-1. Not to mention the rise in shipping costs.
Enjoy your valves. They look very..... interesting!
Luckily for me, and even more so BVM there are allot of guys out there that like the fit and forget peace of mind that a great valve such as the BVM one offers them. After all a £20.00 outlay to protect an investment of thousands is considered wise spending by some ( but not al)l, and thats what makes this hobby so diverse I guess.
Regards Al
No Dennis we kept the 2.5%! It helped off set the shift in dollar price from 2-1 right down to 1.3-1. Not to mention the rise in shipping costs.
Enjoy your valves. They look very..... interesting!
Luckily for me, and even more so BVM there are allot of guys out there that like the fit and forget peace of mind that a great valve such as the BVM one offers them. After all a £20.00 outlay to protect an investment of thousands is considered wise spending by some ( but not al)l, and thats what makes this hobby so diverse I guess.
Regards Al
Retailers need to remember that their income generally comes from us modelers.
As for the car valve. I have seen them in many models and indeed many cars and I and others I know have not had a failure yet. The same is not true of the BVM Style valve.
Oh and as for protecting our jets...... The valves in car tyres protect millions of peoples lives so I will leave it to others to guess which one is probably made to the higher standard.
£19.99 for a simple valve is just madness
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02-16-2009, 03:32 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
Hi Dennis,
Feel free any time you like to pop in, and I will happily run you through our buying price, and selling price of items such as this valve. I would be happy to spend as long as it takes to work through with you how much is made now on each valve and how much was made 6 months ago one. No smoke, no mirrors. Just simple business.
Oh I am very very aware where my income stems from, and I am very grateful that quite a substantial amount of my customers like to own, and enjoy to buy products such as the BVM valve. Remember the choice is theirs! The fact that I have just placed yet another order for 50 of them shows to me that some people ( like myself ) are happy to buy a simple reliable, ready made valve.
The thought of having to make a valve up out of car parts, and solder items together may seem like madness to some. Just as it seems like madness to you to spend £19.99 on a valve. Me??? I can see the attraction in either way, but wont be fitting anything other than BVM valves to my models.
Regards Al
Feel free any time you like to pop in, and I will happily run you through our buying price, and selling price of items such as this valve. I would be happy to spend as long as it takes to work through with you how much is made now on each valve and how much was made 6 months ago one. No smoke, no mirrors. Just simple business.
Oh I am very very aware where my income stems from, and I am very grateful that quite a substantial amount of my customers like to own, and enjoy to buy products such as the BVM valve. Remember the choice is theirs! The fact that I have just placed yet another order for 50 of them shows to me that some people ( like myself ) are happy to buy a simple reliable, ready made valve.
The thought of having to make a valve up out of car parts, and solder items together may seem like madness to some. Just as it seems like madness to you to spend £19.99 on a valve. Me??? I can see the attraction in either way, but wont be fitting anything other than BVM valves to my models.
Regards Al
02-16-2009, 04:32 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
[quote]ORIGINAL: bigplumbs
Just salvage a nipple from any faied air unit or a metal tee piece make it fit the end of the tyre valve buy crushing it a little with plyers. Solder in, Test and away you go.
Far better than any valve you can buy in our hobby IMHO
Tempting?????? but since i do not have any failed air units as i use BVM gear i will have to stick with the reliable, good quality BVM valves.
BVM has a superb reputation for a reason . . . . . great products!
02-16-2009, 05:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: bigplumbs
I have several air retracts on various planes and I have to say I am fed up with the fill valve leaking.
You can now spend over £20.00 for a simple non return valve and I think this is unacceptable. I have used the chinese ones that come with many retracts and I am fed up with them leaking.
I would therefore share with you all the following very cheap....... Can be free ! excellent alternative. This is not my idea I learnt it of a far better modeler than me.....
All you do is take a trip to you local car tyre firm and ask for some car tyre valves for tubeless tyres....... I am given them free when I get new tyres and I usually come away with a small handfull but at most you will be charged £1 each....... Motorbike ones are nice as they are shorter.
Then just strip off the rubber.......... Solder a nipple into the end of them....... I remove the inner valve to do this...... and there you go a very reliable non return fill valve...... It has the added benefit that it will fit most of our puup ends.
I recon if it is good enough for a car tyre it is good enough for our jets
Nice and cheap and very reliable
Dennis Norman
I have several air retracts on various planes and I have to say I am fed up with the fill valve leaking.
You can now spend over £20.00 for a simple non return valve and I think this is unacceptable. I have used the chinese ones that come with many retracts and I am fed up with them leaking.
I would therefore share with you all the following very cheap....... Can be free ! excellent alternative. This is not my idea I learnt it of a far better modeler than me.....
All you do is take a trip to you local car tyre firm and ask for some car tyre valves for tubeless tyres....... I am given them free when I get new tyres and I usually come away with a small handfull but at most you will be charged £1 each....... Motorbike ones are nice as they are shorter.
Then just strip off the rubber.......... Solder a nipple into the end of them....... I remove the inner valve to do this...... and there you go a very reliable non return fill valve...... It has the added benefit that it will fit most of our puup ends.
I recon if it is good enough for a car tyre it is good enough for our jets
Nice and cheap and very reliable
Dennis Norman
most common problem on leaking valves is that there is some debree on the rubber oring that seals the filling valve.
a tip what you can do , is to release air from the valve so the debree comes out again.
you will get the same troubles on a part that comes fromn a car tyre.
02-16-2009, 09:00 AM
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
I have used this exact valve style on my hostpot for 6 years and it still works fine. FYI these type of valves are used on hydraulic accumulators that are charged with nitrogen up to 1800 psi. so no worries about holding pressure.
02-16-2009, 09:52 AM
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Tempting?????? but since i do not have any failed air units as i use BVM gear i will have to stick with the reliable, good quality BVM valves.
BVM has a superb reputation for a reason . . . . . great products!
Tempting?????? but since i do not have any failed air units as i use BVM gear i will have to stick with the reliable, good quality BVM valves.
BVM has a superb reputation for a reason . . . . . great products!
http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...asp?sku=MQC-V3 for $1.90 (or http://www.clippard.com/store/displa....asp?sku=MQC-3 if you want the chuck with it).
A handy benefit of these valves is that the threaded end lets you screw in all manner of connectors – from http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-2-PKG for a simngle barb for 'regular' air line, to http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=11752-4-PKG
for larger (e.g. 4mm) line, or http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...ku=XT2-202-PKG for a built-in T, or a gazillion other types inclusing swivel connectors etc.
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RE: Non Return Air Fill Valves - £1.00
Gordon,
Do you have to use their supplied "chuck" to fill the valve, or can you just use a regular tire inflator connector?
Chad
Do you have to use their supplied "chuck" to fill the valve, or can you just use a regular tire inflator connector?
Chad
02-16-2009, 12:05 PM
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Gordon,
Do you have to use their supplied "chuck" to fill the valve, or can you just use a regular tire inflator connector?
Chad
Gordon,
Do you have to use their supplied "chuck" to fill the valve, or can you just use a regular tire inflator connector?
Chad
Gordon