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Old 03-26-2009, 06:15 PM
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I've always ran LawnBoy Ashless oil at 32:1 in all my gassers and never had any issues but I think this season I'm going to switch to Pennzoil at 40:1 in my G26 since I've heard so much about it. I had a hard time finding it but the last stop paid off. I bought all three bottles that Advanced Auto Parts had. I saw the Multi- Purpose oil, 4-stroke oil, and out-board oil and I'm hoping I got the right stuff. All you Pennzoil users, what ratio are you running in your gassers ???

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Old 03-26-2009, 06:21 PM
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That's the right oil. 40 to 1 is what I run it at
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Thanks man. I thought I had the right oil. The bottles I bought are only 3.2 oz. Can you buy it by the quart? I would have continued using the LawnBoy Ashless oil but Sears stopped handling it. I can't find it anywhere else.
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I get the 8 oz ones. I haven't seen any bigger bottles. I get them at AutoZone.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:41 PM
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I get the 8 oz ones. I haven't seen any bigger bottles. I get them at AutoZone.
AutoZone was the first place I went to. Maybe they were out. I'm sure it's out there I'll just have to look harder.
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Thanks man. I thought I had the right oil. The bottles I bought are only 3.2 oz. Can you buy it by the quart? I would have continued using the LawnBoy Ashless oil but Sears stopped handling it. I can't find it anywhere else.

most hardware stores carry Lawnboy... I think I have even seen it at Home Depot
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Thanks man. I thought I had the right oil. The bottles I bought are only 3.2 oz. Can you buy it by the quart? I would have continued using the LawnBoy Ashless oil but Sears stopped handling it. I can't find it anywhere else.

most hardware stores carry Lawnboy... I think I have even seen it at Home Depot
I looked at Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, all the auto stores and no luck. I did see some Lucus oil. I have never heard of anyone using that.
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good move
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good move
I like good moves .
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You made a good call in making a change. There were no favors done in sing the Lawnboy. Your engine will love you for the switch.
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The Outdoor in the 8oz bottle is not the same. I looked into this by doing a side by side comparison on Pennzoil website. The specs for the two oils are remarkably different. The Outdoor version has poorer numbers for things such as flash point, etc. It is also much lower in price.
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It has to say air cooled on it
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The Outdoor in the 8oz bottle is not the same. I looked into this by doing a side by side comparison on Pennzoil website. The specs for the two oils are remarkably different. The Outdoor version has poorer numbers for things such as flash point, etc. It is also much lower in price.
So show a picture of the good stuff. Post all that good info here. I'll def read it and learn. [8D]
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JoeAirPort,

The good stuff is pictured in post #1.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

I like the small bottles myself. No measuring and an accurate ratio everytime. That is if Pennzoil put the correct amount in every bottle. I use one bottle for 2.5 gallons of gas for a ratio of 40:1. Nice and simple.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

Here is the data sheet direct from the oil maker themselfs.
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Do...eAirCooled.PDF
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

I looked at the data sheet but I must have missed the mentioned difference. The data sheet does differentiate between the air-cooled and the outboard oils. The two oil container pictures on the thread show different sizes but I believe they must be the same. The 8oz. is rated for category TC which should take care of our needs.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

Joe knows the good stuff and what to use-I use the same as him. I've bought it in the 3.2 and 8oz. bottles. I only buy it in the 8oz. now so I mix that whole bottle to two gal. for a 32:1 ratio. My DL50 uses that along with my Zenoahs and others-all have run beautiful from day one, no problems as long as it says for "Air Cooled".
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

Yeah maybe he didn't see the air cooled on my bottle. I went to their website and they have an outdoor that is separate from the outdoor air cooled. Mine says air cooled. If it only says Outdoor that is not the good stuff.

In their air cooled spec sheet is says:
• Dyed blue for case of identification

Mine is blue.

Also see this web page. It shows my exact bottle type in the air cooled line. I think the word "Outdoor" being in both products is confusing.
http://www.pennzoil.com/products/out...aircooled.html

If you look at this page that has their entire product line...look way down where it says PENNZOIL OUTDOORS. Under that the Multi purpose is listed and then the air cooled.
http://www.pennzoil.com/products.html

I did my homework.

PS: Zippi I think yours is just old stock and is an older label of air cooled.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

JoeAirPort,

You could be correct. I really don't know as this is the first time I've ever bought it. At least it does say "Air Cooled* so I guess I'm good to go. With these little 3.2 oz bottles I can use one bottle per gallon of gas for a ratio of 40:1. A couple years ago I had a Brillelle 26cc and the 40cc gassers and they both spit black spots all over the plane. Not sure if it was characteristic of the engine or the LawnBoy Ashless oil.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

Joe is correct-you have some of the older stock. A while back they switched labels and lots of folks got confused but it is the same stuff. I love Pennzoil and it is easy to get where I live-some people have a hard time finding it for some reason though. I mentioned this on another thread that my nephew switched from Pennz. 50:1 back to 32:1 and picked up 2-300rpm without touching a thing!
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I get the dots on the bottom of my plane no matter what oil I have used. Well except Amsoil Saber 100:1 and only ran that for a short while on a DA-50 I sold years ago. I just wipe it up now and then no biggie.
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Default RE: *Due For An Oil Change*

Please guys this isn't meant to start an argument , but why do you still use mineral based oils in the States ,instead of the modern fully synthetic racing 2 stroke oil ? Is there a reason , price difference ?

I can't think of anyone in the UK who doesn't use Bel-Ray or Silkolene or Valvoline etc in their gas engines. These are all synthetic 2 stroke oils used at 50 :1 or higher.

As I said this isn't a critiscism , but genuine curiosity.

Cheers

Colin
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ORIGINAL: Marcol

Please guys this isn't meant to start an argument , but why do you still use mineral based oils in the States ,instead of the modern fully synthetic racing 2 stroke oil ? Is there a reason , price difference ?

I can't think of anyone in the UK who doesn't use Bel-Ray or Silkolene or Valvoline etc in their gas engines. These are all synthetic 2 stroke oils used at 50 :1 or higher.

As I said this isn't a critiscism , but genuine curiosity.

Cheers

Colin
I can't see spending 3 to 5 times the money on oil than what I have to. Pennz works great and is cheap.


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