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GP F4U Corsair .40
I havent found much here on this plane. I am going to start to build it, and thought I would share with everyone. This will only be my third kit so any suggestions are welcome. I havent decided what engine is going to go in it. I am going to use sig koverall and paint for covering. So in the morning the fun is going to start. It should be exciting it is my favorite plane.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Well I got the parts all inventoried and the plans unrolled. First thing I noticed is if I want to use the slot machine I will have to do it before i glue the balance tabs on the elevator.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Well I have gotten the main spar epoxied along with ribs and started to glue them in. And that is where I ran into a snag. They put the wrong leading edge in the kit so I will have to wait for that to arrive. Maybe I will start the fuse untill it arrives.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
A few years ago there was a build thread http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4441668 (in Spanish) of this kit. Even though I could not read a lot of the words, the man who did the build included a lot of photos and it was pretty easy to follow.
I started this kit as my third build. I got the center section and both wing panels framed and sheeted, then "ran out of gas" on the build. My brother took everything to his house and finished it. We used the Antique (unpainted) Super Coverite and painted it with Lustrekote paint. My brother was not crazy about the Coverite (he prefers koverall) but it turned out pretty good.
We used an OS 70 Surpass 1 with a 13x6 prop. With the battery pack against the firewall, and a TopFlite dummy radial in the cowl it still needed about 8 ounces of lead (on the engine mount) to balance.
I did not want a military paint job because it would be invisible in the air. I found this site http://www.airrace.com/corsairs57.htm and decided to make a tribute to one of the planes that raced in the late 1940s. Our goal was not a replica of the racer, just a tribute.
The plane is pretty fast. It is not hard to fly though. It does not seem to want to tip stall or any of the other things common to WWII models. Great Planes points out multiple times in the manual that this is not a scale model. They are right. It is a good flying sport plane that looks a little bit like a Corsair and that is plenty good for me.
I started this kit as my third build. I got the center section and both wing panels framed and sheeted, then "ran out of gas" on the build. My brother took everything to his house and finished it. We used the Antique (unpainted) Super Coverite and painted it with Lustrekote paint. My brother was not crazy about the Coverite (he prefers koverall) but it turned out pretty good.
We used an OS 70 Surpass 1 with a 13x6 prop. With the battery pack against the firewall, and a TopFlite dummy radial in the cowl it still needed about 8 ounces of lead (on the engine mount) to balance.
I did not want a military paint job because it would be invisible in the air. I found this site http://www.airrace.com/corsairs57.htm and decided to make a tribute to one of the planes that raced in the late 1940s. Our goal was not a replica of the racer, just a tribute.
The plane is pretty fast. It is not hard to fly though. It does not seem to want to tip stall or any of the other things common to WWII models. Great Planes points out multiple times in the manual that this is not a scale model. They are right. It is a good flying sport plane that looks a little bit like a Corsair and that is plenty good for me.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Wow that looks really good Carrell I was wondering what it would look like if you didnt use the normal paint scheme on them. I was thinking of a bright yellow for mine.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
There are not a lot of color pictures on the http://www.airrace.com/racing_corsairs.htm site but there are several different paint schemes to give you an idea of what has been done with the full scale planes.
When I was 11 or 12, we started messing around with the plastic Cox control line planes. My brother got the "Thompson Trophy Winner" which was a solid red corsair. I remembered it and did a Google search for Thompson Trophy Winner. The airrace.com site had the most info and pictures.
When I was 11 or 12, we started messing around with the plastic Cox control line planes. My brother got the "Thompson Trophy Winner" which was a solid red corsair. I remembered it and did a Google search for Thompson Trophy Winner. The airrace.com site had the most info and pictures.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
The fuse is actually coming along really well. There is a cut out in the fuse for a pushrod tube exit on both sides but only one needs to be out. The directions said to use the piece you take out to fill it but I just cut it so I didnt have to take it out. I had a little bit of a problem with the doublers, but that always seems to happen for me. I just used several t-pins to make sure that it would line itself up properly. Other than that the only other problem I have had is gluing myself to the fuse several times ;p
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
I too have built this plane and love it. I also had to add 8oz. of lead fishing weights to the cowling to balance her. Very smooth and stable (surprisingly). Mine has a little saito .56 which I think is perfect because I covered her in the insignia blue I think it is and it turns into a dark blob on me at any good distance. The .56 helps me keep her low and slow. Good luck with your build. Rich
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Instead of adding weight to the model, I would find ways to balance out within the construction. Here some tips: move the engine as forward as possible in the mounting bracket and as allowed by the cowl. Also, I would consider rebuilding the stab and fin into hollow pieces using balsa stick frame with 1/16" balsa sheeting. I would also think something about the turtle deck balsa block. There are other models that have turtle deck and not use balsa block at the top. Just a thought.
Edited to add: Other option is the engine. A heavier more powerful 4-stroke helps also.
Edited to add: Other option is the engine. A heavier more powerful 4-stroke helps also.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Thanks for the info prgonzalez I have been thinking about doing something with the fin and stab to try to lighten them up. Was thinking about cutting some holes in them but am not sure about the best way to go about it.
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John,
This is what I did for another model that also was a one piece balsa like yours. Look at the pictures. You can use the original stab and fin as template for shaping the outter frame. You only need few pieces of wood you can get at your LHS. Then you do the same with the fin. By the way, there is a small piece of basswood in the center of the frame that acts as spar for the stab.
Hope it helps.
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This is what I did for another model that also was a one piece balsa like yours. Look at the pictures. You can use the original stab and fin as template for shaping the outter frame. You only need few pieces of wood you can get at your LHS. Then you do the same with the fin. By the way, there is a small piece of basswood in the center of the frame that acts as spar for the stab.
Hope it helps.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Thanks for the info Pedro. I dont have a LHS though, so its usually what I have or get it offline. Do you think there would be any issues with drilling some holes as long as there was plenty left for structure around the edges and in the middle where it conects to the fuse?
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I am not sure how it would work out at the end. I have seen other pieces full of holes in war birds. What you can do is look at other build threads and watch the photos for those details. I have learned a lot that way here in RCU. Also use the scratch build forum.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Well I wasnt able to do any work this weekend cause i needed to solder the tail gear wire, and I dont have a soldering iron. So I took it to work with me thismorning and attempted to solder it but didnt have much luck. Instead my boss and I ended up just brazing it and it turned out ok. So hopefully there will be some more work done this afternoon.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
You: "Hey I'm having a problem soldering this tail wheel assembly together for the Corsair RC Airplane I'm building, you have any idea's?"
Your Boss: (takes a look at it) "Yeah I bet we could braze that thing together in no time"
Me: "Hey I'm having a problem soldering this tail wheel assembly together for the Corsair RC Airplane I'm building, You have any ideas?"
My Boss: (looks at me like I have a massively infected wound on my face) "Yeah, go back to work, how's that for an idea?"
Nice Boss you have there.
Seriously tho, I built this plane as well, I think it was my second kit. Dropped a Saito 82 FS I had into it and it was dead on balanced. Didn't have to do a single thing to balance it. I covered mine in traditional Corsair Blue (Ultracote) as I'm a warbird lover and would poke my own eye's out with a rusty spoon before I committed a crime like NOT making a Corsair, Corsair Blue. You know what they say... cover a warbird wrong and the ghosts of WWII pilots will haunt you forever. Ok, no one really says that and that doesn't really happen.
It's an awesome little sport scale plane tho, you'll enjoy it greatly....even if it is yellow.
Your Boss: (takes a look at it) "Yeah I bet we could braze that thing together in no time"
Me: "Hey I'm having a problem soldering this tail wheel assembly together for the Corsair RC Airplane I'm building, You have any ideas?"
My Boss: (looks at me like I have a massively infected wound on my face) "Yeah, go back to work, how's that for an idea?"
Nice Boss you have there.
Seriously tho, I built this plane as well, I think it was my second kit. Dropped a Saito 82 FS I had into it and it was dead on balanced. Didn't have to do a single thing to balance it. I covered mine in traditional Corsair Blue (Ultracote) as I'm a warbird lover and would poke my own eye's out with a rusty spoon before I committed a crime like NOT making a Corsair, Corsair Blue. You know what they say... cover a warbird wrong and the ghosts of WWII pilots will haunt you forever. Ok, no one really says that and that doesn't really happen.
It's an awesome little sport scale plane tho, you'll enjoy it greatly....even if it is yellow.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Wow I didnt think that putting this piece on was going to be such a PITA. Lol had a heck of a time keeping the epoxy off the wire itself.
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RE: GP F4U Corsair .40
Well I got a little more work done today. This was the first time I have had to deal with triangle stock so that was a little different but I think it turned out ok. Now I wasnt really sure about the best way to go about the covering of the bottom of the fuse since the instructions basically just say that the grain goes cross ways, and the tail gear wire sticks out the middle of it. So I did the best I could think of to try not to waste any and it didnt turn out to bad.
Wasnt sure if I was supposed to glue the joints of the sheeting together or not. Any suggestions on that for future reference?
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Wasnt sure if I was supposed to glue the joints of the sheeting together or not. Any suggestions on that for future reference?
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