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10-02-2009, 01:14 PM
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hi ive built a jet funnycar and will be doing shows with the car in full quarter scale tracks . i need help to build a homemade smoke system . i was thinking of buying a small fuel pump attach it to a small switch and a servo to push the switch so that i can put on and off the pump any time i like . any suggestions do you think it will work ? thanks
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10-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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RE: need smoke system
TamJets sells a smoke system as well as JetCat which works with their turbines. You could also purchase a Sullivan skywriter pump from Tower and then use a Tams injector nozzle at the turbine exhaust, thats what I am doing.
10-02-2009, 01:52 PM
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RE: need smoke system
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TamJets sells a smoke system as well as JetCat which works with their turbines. You could also purchase a Sullivan skywriter pump from Tower and then use a Tams injector nozzle at the turbine exhaust, thats what I am doing.
TamJets sells a smoke system as well as JetCat which works with their turbines. You could also purchase a Sullivan skywriter pump from Tower and then use a Tams injector nozzle at the turbine exhaust, thats what I am doing.
10-03-2009, 12:21 AM
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TamJets sells a smoke system as well as JetCat which works with their turbines. You could also purchase a Sullivan skywriter pump from Tower and then use a Tams injector nozzle at the turbine exhaust, thats what I am doing.
TamJets sells a smoke system as well as JetCat which works with their turbines. You could also purchase a Sullivan skywriter pump from Tower and then use a Tams injector nozzle at the turbine exhaust, thats what I am doing.
10-03-2009, 06:01 AM
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RE: need smoke system
Hello:
We offer a complete smoke system which includes, pump, stainless steel nozzles, clear Festo 4mm tubing, Festo 4mm fittings, solenoid and complete set up instructions. Battery may be 4.8 thru 7.4. 100% satisfied users to date. Simple to install. . . .and instant OFF with no residual fuel drip.
$225 USD plus $20 shipping to your address. We accept PayPal to [email protected], Visa or MasterCard.
Email to : [email protected] for immediate response.
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Eric Clapp
We offer a complete smoke system which includes, pump, stainless steel nozzles, clear Festo 4mm tubing, Festo 4mm fittings, solenoid and complete set up instructions. Battery may be 4.8 thru 7.4. 100% satisfied users to date. Simple to install. . . .and instant OFF with no residual fuel drip.
$225 USD plus $20 shipping to your address. We accept PayPal to [email protected], Visa or MasterCard.
Email to : [email protected] for immediate response.
Best regards,
Eric Clapp
10-03-2009, 06:22 AM
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Hello:
We offer a complete smoke system which includes, pump, stainless steel nozzles, clear Festo 4mm tubing, Festo 4mm fittings, solenoid and complete set up instructions. Battery may be 4.8 thru 7.4. 100% satisfied users to date. Simple to install. . . .and instant OFF with no residual fuel drip.
$225 USD plus $20 shipping to your address. We accept PayPal to [email protected], Visa or MasterCard.
Email to : [email protected] for immediate response.
Best regards,
Eric Clapp
Hello:
We offer a complete smoke system which includes, pump, stainless steel nozzles, clear Festo 4mm tubing, Festo 4mm fittings, solenoid and complete set up instructions. Battery may be 4.8 thru 7.4. 100% satisfied users to date. Simple to install. . . .and instant OFF with no residual fuel drip.
$225 USD plus $20 shipping to your address. We accept PayPal to [email protected], Visa or MasterCard.
Email to : [email protected] for immediate response.
Best regards,
Eric Clapp
10-03-2009, 08:26 AM
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That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of. A 'nitro' pump will work for a very very short time when in contact with gasoline, kerosene or diesel.
The internals (plastic) of a 'nitro only' pump will turn into a gummy mess with a petroleum based substance.
The internals (plastic) of a 'nitro only' pump will turn into a gummy mess with a petroleum based substance.
10-03-2009, 08:49 AM
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That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of. A 'nitro' pump will work for a very very short time when in contact with gasoline, kerosene or diesel.
The internals (plastic) of a 'nitro only' pump will turn into a gummy mess with a petroleum based substance.
That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of. A 'nitro' pump will work for a very very short time when in contact with gasoline, kerosene or diesel.
The internals (plastic) of a 'nitro only' pump will turn into a gummy mess with a petroleum based substance.
10-03-2009, 09:39 AM
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I used the old worn fuel pump from my Ram500. I bought a cheap speed controller so that I can vary pump speed from my transmitter. The nozzle is no big deal. I bought a short length of 1/8" stainless tubing at my local hobby shop and flattened one end to form a nozzle.
At first I had the smoke control on a slider switch on my transmitter. This allowed me to go from a little bit to a lot of smoke. Now I have the pump speed mixed to throttle and use a mix switch to turn it on and off. It works great.
Some guys have used a Jetjoe fuel pump since it's cheap and not much good for running a turbine. By the time you add up the cost of an inexpensive pump and a speed controller you might as well just buy the Sullivan Skywriter pump.
The simplest system would be to have an inexpensive pump with no speed control. Just size the battery voltage to get the volume of smoke you want.
Joe
At first I had the smoke control on a slider switch on my transmitter. This allowed me to go from a little bit to a lot of smoke. Now I have the pump speed mixed to throttle and use a mix switch to turn it on and off. It works great.
Some guys have used a Jetjoe fuel pump since it's cheap and not much good for running a turbine. By the time you add up the cost of an inexpensive pump and a speed controller you might as well just buy the Sullivan Skywriter pump.
The simplest system would be to have an inexpensive pump with no speed control. Just size the battery voltage to get the volume of smoke you want.
Joe
10-03-2009, 09:45 AM
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I used the old worn fuel pump from my Ram500. I bought a cheap speed controller so that I can vary pump speed from my transmitter. The nozzle is no big deal. I bought a short length of 1/8'' stainless tubing at my local hobby shop and flattened one end to form a nozzle.
At first I had the smoke control on a slider switch on my transmitter. This allowed me to go from a little bit to a lot of smoke. Now I have the pump speed mixed to throttle and use a mix switch to turn it on and off. It works great.
Some guys have used a Jetjoe fuel pump since it's cheap and not much good for running a turbine. By the time you add up the cost of an inexpensive pump and a speed controller you might as well just buy the Sullivan Skywriter pump.
The simplest system would be to have an inexpensive pump with no speed control. Just size the battery voltage to get the volume of smoke you want.
Joe
I used the old worn fuel pump from my Ram500. I bought a cheap speed controller so that I can vary pump speed from my transmitter. The nozzle is no big deal. I bought a short length of 1/8'' stainless tubing at my local hobby shop and flattened one end to form a nozzle.
At first I had the smoke control on a slider switch on my transmitter. This allowed me to go from a little bit to a lot of smoke. Now I have the pump speed mixed to throttle and use a mix switch to turn it on and off. It works great.
Some guys have used a Jetjoe fuel pump since it's cheap and not much good for running a turbine. By the time you add up the cost of an inexpensive pump and a speed controller you might as well just buy the Sullivan Skywriter pump.
The simplest system would be to have an inexpensive pump with no speed control. Just size the battery voltage to get the volume of smoke you want.
Joe
10-03-2009, 10:23 AM
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Sorry, I don't have any pictures.
Sorry, I don't have any pictures.
10-03-2009, 10:44 AM
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Yes. I assume that some wires will come out of the switch leading to a battery. I suggest that you put a filter between the tank and pump, and a manual on/off valve between the pump and pipe (otherwise it may drip when off).
You might want to consider an electric switch instead of the servo+switch. See http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCJD7&P=7
Or for about the same price you could use an inexpensive brushed speed controller, which would allow you to vary pump speed. Also since you can adjust pump speed you could power it off of your ECU battery and not worry about finding an additional battery pack at the right voltage.
Joe
You might want to consider an electric switch instead of the servo+switch. See http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCJD7&P=7
Or for about the same price you could use an inexpensive brushed speed controller, which would allow you to vary pump speed. Also since you can adjust pump speed you could power it off of your ECU battery and not worry about finding an additional battery pack at the right voltage.
Joe
10-03-2009, 10:49 AM
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Yes. I assume that some wires will come out of the switch leading to a battery. I suggest that you put a filter between the tank and pump, and a manual on/off valve between the pump and pipe (otherwise it may drip when off).
You might want to consider an electric switch instead of the servo+switch. See http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCJD7&P=7
Or for about he same price you could use an inexpensive brushed speed controller, which would allow you to vary pump speed.
Joe
Yes. I assume that some wires will come out of the switch leading to a battery. I suggest that you put a filter between the tank and pump, and a manual on/off valve between the pump and pipe (otherwise it may drip when off).
You might want to consider an electric switch instead of the servo+switch. See http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCJD7&P=7
Or for about he same price you could use an inexpensive brushed speed controller, which would allow you to vary pump speed.
Joe
10-03-2009, 11:00 AM
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It is a solid state replacement for a servo+switch. Click on the link I provided and read the description.
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It is a solid state replacement for a servo+switch. Click on the link I provided and read the description.
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10-03-2009, 11:37 AM
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That's my understanding of how it works. It should allow you to switch the smoke on and off from your transmitter. I have seen these before but never actually used one.
If you have any detailed questions about your intended use I suggest that you email EMS. Their contact information is on their website http://www.emsjomar.com/
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If you have any detailed questions about your intended use I suggest that you email EMS. Their contact information is on their website http://www.emsjomar.com/
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That's my understanding of how it works. It should allow you to switch the smoke on and off from your transmitter. I have seen these before but never actually used one.
If you have any detailed questions about your intended use I suggest that you email EMS. Their contact information is on their website http://www.emsjomar.com/
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That's my understanding of how it works. It should allow you to switch the smoke on and off from your transmitter. I have seen these before but never actually used one.
If you have any detailed questions about your intended use I suggest that you email EMS. Their contact information is on their website http://www.emsjomar.com/
Joe
10-03-2009, 12:02 PM
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Yes, the electronic switch is powered by the receiver battery. All it's doing is replacing your proposed servo+manual switch. Think of it as a relay. You will need a separate power source to run the smoke pump.
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Yes, the electronic switch is powered by the receiver battery. All it's doing is replacing your proposed servo+manual switch. Think of it as a relay. You will need a separate power source to run the smoke pump.
Joe
10-03-2009, 12:14 PM
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it says petrol nitro do you think its good ? or do you know were i can get some motor to use ? thanks for your help
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That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of.
That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of.
I've never heard of a 'petrol nitro' pump. Just ask the manufacturer if it'll be ok for your application.
10-03-2009, 12:16 PM
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A motor is a motor, it's the PUMP you'll need to be sure is compatable with smoke oil & gasoline etc.
I've never heard of a 'petrol nitro' pump. Just ask the manufacturer if it'll be ok for your application.
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it says petrol nitro do you think its good ? or do you know were i can get some motor to use ? thanks for your help
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That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of.
That all depends on what material the pump's gears/impellers are made of.
I've never heard of a 'petrol nitro' pump. Just ask the manufacturer if it'll be ok for your application.
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Yes, the electronic switch is powered by the receiver battery. All it's doing is replacing your proposed servo+manual switch. Think of it as a relay. You will need a separate power source to run the smoke pump.
Joe
Yes, the electronic switch is powered by the receiver battery. All it's doing is replacing your proposed servo+manual switch. Think of it as a relay. You will need a separate power source to run the smoke pump.
Joe