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Old 10-03-2009, 04:11 AM
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;">I would like to advice every body to be cautious of</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);">Helicopter</span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192); text-decoration: none;"><span id="lw_1254559176_1" style="outline-style: none;">World.com</span></span></span></span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;"><br style="outline-style: none;" /><span class="apple-style-span">I spent a fortune with them, they sold me 3 x 90 size</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> <span class="apple-style-span">Raptors and</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="apple-style-span">50-60 size</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> <span class="apple-style-span"><span style="outline-style: none;">fuselages, they </span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span">hassled me around on the phone for days, they never let me talk to the owner and finally they told me to bring the stuff to them, so i rented a truck and went there, they lied to me saying the boss is not around, they made me wait outside for two hours then finally and simply said they can't help me. I spent over $7000.00 with them and i was about to dump another $5000.00 on the spot and they simply refused to help me and take care of the issues i had with my order......Not only they shipped the wrong fusalages to me but I come to find out that the Black Hawck is broken and instead of sending me a UH-1 they send me an extra Tow Cobra. They basically messed up my order</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span id="lw_1254559176_2" style="outline-style: none; cursor: pointer;">big time</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="apple-style-span">and on top of it workers at 1740-C San Jose CA were mean and unhelpful to a point were i cut my business relations with them for ever. I am dealing with my local </span><span class="yshortcuts">hobby shop</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="apple-style-span">and get much respect that way......Please please be carful of </span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);">Helicopter</span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192); text-decoration: none;"><span id="lw_1254559176_1" style="outline-style: none;">World.com</span></span></span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"> do not end up spending money with them they do not diserve it, plus you will regret it later on when you need thier help in sotheirng......they have very poor managment and sales spacialists, they are all corrupt and greedy a<span style="outline-style: none;">s well</span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="apple-style-span">by not letting the</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="yshortcuts"><span id="lw_1254559176_4" style="outline-style: none;"><span id="lw_1254560886_2" class="yshortcuts">big boss</span></span></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="apple-style-span">know what is going on with his business unless he is one of them as well. If you do happen to know who is the owner at </span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);">Helicopter</span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);"><span class="yshortcuts"><span style="color: rgb(0, 112, 192); text-decoration: none;"><span id="lw_1254559176_1" style="outline-style: none;">World.com</span></span></span> / Centry dealer Warhouse in San Jose</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"> and his personal phone number I would like to talk to him and let him know that his bussiness is going down very soon and why, or you can pass this message over to him please....thanks all for reading this forum of mine please do pass the word over to your friends before they get ripped off and screwed on their orders like me...The local hobby shop owner at Modesto Hobby shop wich is Joe is nice enough to offer to resale my </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%; color: black;"><span class="apple-converted-space"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="outline-style: none;">fuselages for me while i am deployed.</span></span></span></span><span class="apple-style-span"> </span></p>
Old 10-03-2009, 07:32 AM
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Your hot link is bad. Please correct so that we know who you are talking about.
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I have done a lot of mail order purchases over the past 10 plus years and have always been well treated. They have even phoned me at times to let me know they were out of stock on items orderd, as they wanted to know if I wanted the other items sent seperately or not.

What fuselages exactly? I did not even know they had 3 fuselages that could total $7000.00!!!????

I have done a number of them over the years myself. As they are mostly generic types for different sizes. It is up to the modeller to engineer the fit of their mechanics into them, and some mechanics took more "engineering" and modiications to get installed properly.But that is whjat scale modeling is all about. It is quite different then pod and boom building and flying.

Due to this, I have on occasion ordered their complete scale kits that also included their own mechanics. These were designed as integrated units SO the mechanics fit into the fuselages rather easily.

I hope they come on here nd tell their side of this story, as I have always found there is two sides to most stories like this.
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Hmmm...they have always been great to deal with for me also.
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<font color="#0000ff">Back in December 2008 i called Centry dealer online which is Helicopter World.com on the phone and asked the sales person that i was interested in the predator Gasser helicopters and would like to buy the fuselages that would fit them, so they sold me the following items. </font>

<font color="#ff0000"><font color="#0000ff">3 </font></font><font color="#ff0000"><span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l6_lblProdName">PREDATOR CARBON GASSER SE NX V2.0 with Zenoah G26 MODIFIED ENGINE </span></font><font color="#ff0000">at $1750.00 each. part number CN1305V2HP <span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l6_lblProdName"></span>
<font color="#0000ff">2 </font></font><font color="#ff0000"><span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l13_lblProdName">Thunder Tiger MD-530 MILITARY R50 PAINTED SCALE FUSELAGE size .50</span></font><font color="#ff0000"> at $279.99 each. part number</font> TTR3837 <font color="#ff0000"><span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l13_lblProdName"></span></font>
<font color="#ff0000"><font color="#0000ff">1</font> <span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l0_lblProdName">TOW COBRA FUSELAGE (UNPAINTED)</span> size .60 at $499.99 each. part number </font>CN2038
<font color="#ff0000"><font color="#0000ff">1</font> </font><span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l0_lblProdName"><font color="#ff0000">UH-1B HUEY FUSELAGE (UNPAINTED) size .60 at $354.95 each part number</font> </span>CN2037.<font color="#ff0000"> They end up sending me an extra Tow Cobra instead of this <span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l13_lblProdName">FUSELAGE. So now i have 2 Tow Cobra that i can't use.
<font color="#0000ff">1</font> </span></font><span id="SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__ct l0_lblProdName"><font color="#ff0000">Century BLACK HAWK 60-90 size UNPAINTED FUSELAGE size .60 at $459.95 each part number</font> </span>CN4005. <font color="#ff0000">Arrived broken at the front windshield area and still not sure if this would fit yet</font>.

As you guys all can see how much money i spent with them so far, 8 months ago i was new to this hobby that's why i relied on their expertise to sell me what i need to complete the projects. I got the boxes alright, then i had no time and choice but to put them in my storage then leave to Iraq. Now i come home on leave and decided to take them to my local Hobby shop to see what else i would need for them and ask question only i come to find out they are the wrong size and way small for the Predators i have.
I called Centry in San Jose numerous of times and requested help to exchange them for a bigger size to fit and would not care if any etra charge apply. They kept haseling and pushing me around on the phone and making me wait too long, then i asked to talk to the owner which they claimed it was Mr. Peterson but they they never transfered me to him and always out to lunch. Finally after the third day i called back and told them i am renting a truck and bringing the boxes back and would like to see the owner please, sales person said fine bring them over. I rented a truck and took everything there, as soon as i entered i asked for Mr. Peterson or the owner and the asian lady at the desk right away told me he is not there nor any of the managers and i could tell they were lying to me as i had friends with me too and they thought so too. They made me wait near 2 hours outside then finally some new sales person said sorry they don't want to help me with it and they can't do anything for me. I asked the sales person to exchange them for me and i would pay the extra cost he said sorry, i asked the sales person again that i was willing to pay the restocking fee and any extra charges he said sorry, I asked him again to see the owner and he claimed every body was out. yet i could see him talking to people inside and all the high end cars parked out side. Any ways to make the story short these people refused to help in any way possible they even refused to come out and just see what i have to show them and get an advice, instead the sales person told me that i have to buy the .90 size fuselages and i said no way, i would rather take my business somewhere else and that is exactly what i am doing now. I left the boxes wit my local hobby shop at Modesto to sell them for me and left back to Iraq, when i get back i will have him order me the right once from some body else. I was about to dump another $4000 to $5000 dollars right on the spot at that location and told the sales person only if you guys help me exchange them they still refused. I have seen dome people in my life but i have never seen like these at 1740-C Junction Ave Centry San Jose. I advice every body to keep away from them because they are the worst of the worst out there and i found out that i am not the only one who experienced that. This is my story with Centry. Now if they have the guts i would like one of them to come out here and explain what i said was not true if they can, because i have the sales receipts and pictures and boxes and everything to prove them wrong..........No matter what they have to say customer is always right and i refuse to do bussiness with them again ever, not to mention i will be spreading the word out so every one knows who they are about to deal with.......
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So let me get this straight.

Last year, you bought all these items. Now, 10 or eleven months later you want them to do something for you?

I will tell you why I think there is more to your tale. First you say you are new to helis, so you wanted their expert advice...and you bought 3 expensive gasoline powered helicopters!!!!???? And you wanted them to all be scale helis??? Very hard to believe anyone could be that naive.

Many years ago, when I talked to them about starting out, they (along with a number of other shops) all told me to start with a 30 nitro or a 50 nitro. When I asked about starting with bigger 90 sized nitros or gasoline powered helis, they and the others, all advised against it. Of course I am sure that if I insisted, they would have still sold me something bigger. But then, any consequences would certainly have been my responsability, not theirs.

You will see the same theme, on every forum on the net, relative to advising newbies.

As for starting with a scale machine. They told me definitely not. That I should first start with a pod & boom heli, learn to fly that well then slowly progress up from the more simple 30/50 size scale helis, before even trying to tackle anything as big and complicated as the ones you list here. Again I am sure if I would have insisted, they would have probably sold me what I wanted, and shook their heads as I left.

As for your Tow Cobras. That really stikes a cord with me. As many years later, I finally had a Predator Gasser and was very comfortable at flying it. When I inquired about installing it into their Tow Cobra, I was told by them that it could be done, but it would take a lot of cutting out on the exhaust side to clear the large gasser muffler and also that fiting the exhaust system would just be the beginning of all the other extra work required. So I abandoned that idea of using that fuselage.

Later, at an event I attended, I saw a fellow with their 60/90 sized H500 fuselage wrapped around his Predator Gasser and he informed me that it fit quite easily, but took a bit of measuring and fitting to get the bulkheads etc, into the right places. The following week I called them and was informed that yes, the H-500's would fit, but would take some doing on my own. So hopefully I will get around to installing mine in one of their H500's one of these days.

By the way. If you want easy to install large gas scale helis, then get prepared to pay a much higher price to buy those that are specifically made for specific mechanics, such as the ones from Vario. Of course as they have done all the engineering for you, for intallation onto their own specific mechanics, you will find the hit on your bank account to be a lot more then any of the more universal fuselages from Century.
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ORIGINAL: abesvenom

<font color=''#0000ff''>Back in December 2008 i called Centry dealer online which is Helicopter World.com on the phone and asked the sales person that i was interested in the predator Gasser helicopters and would like to buy the fuselages that would fit them, so they sold me the following items. </font>

<font color=''#ff0000''><font color=''#0000ff''>3 </font></font><font color=''#ff0000''><span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl6_lblProdName''>PREDATOR CARBON GASSER SE NX V2.0 with Zenoah G26 MODIFIED ENGINE </span></font><font color=''#ff0000''>at $1750.00 each. part number CN1305V2HP <span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl6_lblProdName''></span>
<font color=''#0000ff''>2 </font></font><font color=''#ff0000''><span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl13_lblProdName''>Thunder Tiger MD-530 MILITARY R50 PAINTED SCALE FUSELAGE size .50</span></font><font color=''#ff0000''> at $279.99 each. part number</font> TTR3837 <font color=''#ff0000''><span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl13_lblProdName''></span></font>
<font color=''#ff0000''><font color=''#0000ff''>1</font> <span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl0_lblProdName''>TOW COBRA FUSELAGE (UNPAINTED)</span> size .60 at $499.99 each. part number </font>CN2038
<font color=''#ff0000''><font color=''#0000ff''>1</font> </font><span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl0_lblProdName''><font color=''#ff0000''>UH-1B HUEY FUSELAGE (UNPAINTED) size .60 at $354.95 each part number</font> </span>CN2037.<font color=''#ff0000''> They end up sending me an extra Tow Cobra instead of this <span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl13_lblProdName''>FUSELAGE. So now i have 2 Tow Cobra that i can't use.
<font color=''#0000ff''>1</font> </span></font><span id=''SearchTemplate11_DataGrid1__ctl3_DataList1__c tl0_lblProdName''><font color=''#ff0000''>Century BLACK HAWK 60-90 size UNPAINTED FUSELAGE size .60 at $459.95 each part number</font> </span>CN4005. <font color=''#ff0000''>Arrived broken at the front windshield area and still not sure if this would fit yet</font>.

As you guys all can see how much money i spent with them so far, 8 months ago i was new to this hobby that's why i relied on their expertise to sell me what i need to complete the projects. I got the boxes alright, then i had no time and choice but to put them in my storage then leave to Iraq. Now i come home on leave and decided to take them to my local Hobby shop to see what else i would need for them and ask question only i come to find out they are the wrong size and way small for the Predators i have.
I called Centry in San Jose numerous of times and requested help to exchange them for a bigger size to fit and would not care if any etra charge apply. They kept haseling and pushing me around on the phone and making me wait too long, then i asked to talk to the owner which they claimed it was Mr. Peterson but they they never transfered me to him and always out to lunch. Finally after the third day i called back and told them i am renting a truck and bringing the boxes back and would like to see the owner please, sales person said fine bring them over. I rented a truck and took everything there, as soon as i entered i asked for Mr. Peterson or the owner and the asian lady at the desk right away told me he is not there nor any of the managers and i could tell they were lying to me as i had friends with me too and they thought so too. They made me wait near 2 hours outside then finally some new sales person said sorry they don't want to help me with it and they can't do anything for me. I asked the sales person to exchange them for me and i would pay the extra cost he said sorry, i asked the sales person again that i was willing to pay the restocking fee and any extra charges he said sorry, I asked him again to see the owner and he claimed every body was out. yet i could see him talking to people inside and all the high end cars parked out side. Any ways to make the story short these people refused to help in any way possible they even refused to come out and just see what i have to show them and get an advice, instead the sales person told me that i have to buy the .90 size fuselages and i said no way, i would rather take my business somewhere else and that is exactly what i am doing now. I left the boxes wit my local hobby shop at Modesto to sell them for me and left back to Iraq, when i get back i will have him order me the right once from some body else. I was about to dump another $4000 to $5000 dollars right on the spot at that location and told the sales person only if you guys help me exchange them they still refused. I have seen dome people in my life but i have never seen like these at 1740-C Junction Ave Centry San Jose. I advice every body to keep away from them because they are the worst of the worst out there and i found out that i am not the only one who experienced that. This is my story with Centry. Now if they have the guts i would like one of them to come out here and explain what i said was not true if they can, because i have the sales receipts and pictures and boxes and everything to prove them wrong..........No matter what they have to say customer is always right and i refuse to do bussiness with them again ever, not to mention i will be spreading the word out so every one knows who they are about to deal with.......


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