Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
#1
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Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
Hi All;
Just finish the build on the Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51
I must say it was a sweet build!!!
I am looking for any flight info on this bird!! Pro and Con info is welcome.
In the nose for power is a Magnum 1.20 XL 4 stroke.
Thank you all for your info.
I did upload the pictures, but it was to big!! Sorry!!
Thank you all, again!!!
Sonny
Just finish the build on the Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51
I must say it was a sweet build!!!
I am looking for any flight info on this bird!! Pro and Con info is welcome.
In the nose for power is a Magnum 1.20 XL 4 stroke.
Thank you all for your info.
I did upload the pictures, but it was to big!! Sorry!!
Thank you all, again!!!
Sonny
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
Oh, hell, Mike, I didn't realize it was you.
Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)
I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?
I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.
I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.
Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)
I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?
I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.
I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.
#8
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
Bob,
The manual say the CG should be at 124mm or 4.7/8", but they do give a CG range of 4.5/8 to 5" ( 117mm to 127mm). Right now my CG is at 4.5/8. The weight for this bird as per the manual is 9.5 10 10lbs. My weight is 11.8lbs because I have the onboard glow system with a spare battery just to power it. The control throws I think are a bit to much!!
This is what the manual call for:
Aileron High Rate UP/DOWN 35mm or 18 degrees
Aileron Low Rate UP/DOWN 20mm or 13 degrees
Elevator High Rate UP/DOWN 32mm or 15 degrees
Elevator Low Rate UP/Down 27mm or 12 degrees
Rudder High Rate Right/Left 32mm or 15 degrees
Rudder Low Rate Right/Left 20mm or 13 degrees
Flaps Positions UP Aligned with wing trailing edge
MID 44mm or 22 degrees
Down 80mm or 43 degrees
I can not wait to hear Mike B report on his first flight!!!
Like your self, I do love the P-51, but as you have post, that can be a hand full to fly.
Sonny
The manual say the CG should be at 124mm or 4.7/8", but they do give a CG range of 4.5/8 to 5" ( 117mm to 127mm). Right now my CG is at 4.5/8. The weight for this bird as per the manual is 9.5 10 10lbs. My weight is 11.8lbs because I have the onboard glow system with a spare battery just to power it. The control throws I think are a bit to much!!
This is what the manual call for:
Aileron High Rate UP/DOWN 35mm or 18 degrees
Aileron Low Rate UP/DOWN 20mm or 13 degrees
Elevator High Rate UP/DOWN 32mm or 15 degrees
Elevator Low Rate UP/Down 27mm or 12 degrees
Rudder High Rate Right/Left 32mm or 15 degrees
Rudder Low Rate Right/Left 20mm or 13 degrees
Flaps Positions UP Aligned with wing trailing edge
MID 44mm or 22 degrees
Down 80mm or 43 degrees
I can not wait to hear Mike B report on his first flight!!!
Like your self, I do love the P-51, but as you have post, that can be a hand full to fly.
Sonny
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
ORIGINAL: Mustang Fever
Oh, hell, Mike, I didn't realize it was you.
Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)
I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?
I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.
I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.
Oh, hell, Mike, I didn't realize it was you.
Yeah, my Top Flite 1/7 P-51 (GE kit) tip stalled itself right into the ground. Combination of too heavy (12 pounds) and Top Flite's recommended CG, which I think is on the extreme side. (Almost 40%)
I went into a split ess with plenty of altitude and airspeed, rolled inverted, pulled some stick, and it went nose down and stayed there all the way to the ground, rolling right as it went. Full throttle wouldn't make it straighten out and get controllable. Some kind of deep stall resulting in an unrecoverable spin. Other than that it was a great flyer with a 120 AX. A bit touchy on takeoff, but what P-51 isn't?
I don't know off hand what H9 recommends for a CG, but I'd be tempted to bump it forward by a half an inch.
I'll be real interested in hearing your assessment of this bird. I had sworn off P-51s altogether, but a good flyer could make me change my mind.
Sorry to hear about your Top Flite GE crash. Mine didn't do this but it was about 3 lb lighter as I recall (don't have it anymore- sold it a few years ago).
I don't remember where I had the CG, but it was where Top Flite said to put it though. But mine was an old kit from the early days of the GE kits.
Ed
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
Mike B,
Thanks for the info!!!
One question?? Did you have the CG as per the manual and what engine you had for power???
Thanks again for your answer!!!
Sonny
Thanks for the info!!!
One question?? Did you have the CG as per the manual and what engine you had for power???
Thanks again for your answer!!!
Sonny
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
minnflyer, you said it flys heavy Like a warbird. Does that mean it is not recommended for a first warbird, like the other hanger 9 warbirds? Just wondering.
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
ORIGINAL: Mustang Fever
Did you get a chance to weigh it?
Did you get a chance to weigh it?
ORIGINAL: Prop_Wash
minnflyer, you said it flys heavy Like a warbird. Does that mean it is not recommended for a first warbird, like the other hanger 9 warbirds? Just wondering.
minnflyer, you said it flys heavy Like a warbird. Does that mean it is not recommended for a first warbird, like the other hanger 9 warbirds? Just wondering.
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RE: Hangar 9 Blue Nose P-51 ARF
In the air, you will find very little difference. About the only place you need to watch is on landing. A plane with a heavy wing loading will not "Float" and if allowed to get too slow, it will stall.
Just keep your speed up a little and "Fly it to the ground"
After a few attempts, you'll quickly get the feel for what is too fast and what is too slow.
Just keep your speed up a little and "Fly it to the ground"
After a few attempts, you'll quickly get the feel for what is too fast and what is too slow.