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Old 11-17-2009, 01:25 PM
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I put a total of four fantastic flights on my new Avonds F-16...It is powered with a JetCat P-120 and this engine is a PERFECT marraige for this airframe...This plane goes exactly where you point it and has absolutely NO bad habits...I'm EXTREMELY pleased!!! This plane is a definate keeper!!!...I don't have any flight pics or vids but I do have a some pics of the model with my eight year old son..The first flight was from asphalt and the next three were on grass...The plane effortlessly handled the grass strip and the P-120 has more than enough grunt...I'm looking forward to many flights with this bird!!!!...

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Old 11-17-2009, 01:29 PM
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Congrats!

Why one flight off the pavement and the next three off the grass??

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Old 11-17-2009, 01:33 PM
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I've been wanting to build one of these for a while. The scale upgrades available from PA are incredible.

Congrats!
Old 11-17-2009, 01:40 PM
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Congrats!

Why one flight off the pavement and the next three off the grass??

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I had permission to fly from a local airport and I got the first flight off from there...I basically just flew it in a race track pattern to get the feel of her...I had an air problem with the retracts. (The nose gear wouldn't come down)...The plane handled the nose gear up problem with ease due to the fact that the pitot tube took the damage as it sticks out just far enough to prevent the nose from coming in contact with the asphalt...Anyway, I took the plane home to sort out the retract issue and then flew it again at a later date from the Propbusters grass strip in Arlington TN...This plane really makes the pilot look GOOD!!! In the near future I plan to add a few items such as an LED afterburner, fuel tanks, etc...I already have the large (300 gallon if I'm not mistaken) ferry tanks with pylons completed...I flew with the inner pylons in place...

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Congrats! She looks great. Fine lookin boy you got there to. Congrats.
Old 11-17-2009, 02:02 PM
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This is without doubt the best flying F-16 in the world. The weight is where is should be (20#ish) which allows a wide selection of motors. It has no bad habits and is a blast to fly. I am on my 2nd one and have a 3rd in the box (scale mains and a scale nose in the works). This is my "go to" airplane as I fly and fly without a bunch of work on it. For guys that still enjoy building it is an easy build as everything comes with it and it all fits perfectly. Congratulations!
Old 11-17-2009, 03:24 PM
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Very nice, are you using ailerons? if so, what servos?
Old 11-17-2009, 04:13 PM
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Very nice, are you using ailerons? if so, what servos?

Thanks to everyone for the nice comments!!!...

No ailerons/flaperons, just the stock "tailerons" as Avonds recommends...The plane feels just like having separate ailerons and elevators-Not so with the Avonds F-15 that I flew-The F-15 had a different feel to it...So, no real need for ailerons/flaperons on this bird unless you are a scale purist...In fact, this plane slows down so well on landing that flaps are definately not needed...

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Old 11-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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Very nice, are you using ailerons? if so, what servos?

Thanks to everyone for the nice comments!!!...

No ailerons/flaperons, just the stock ''tailerons'' as Avonds recommends...The plane feels just like having separate ailerons and elevators-Not so with the Avonds F-15 that I flew-The F-15 had a different feel to it...So, no real need for ailerons/flaperons on this bird unless you are a scale purist...In fact, this plane slows down so well on landing that flaps are definately not needed...

Kevin



Thats nice to hear, I am on the fence with the ailerons for my project (SM 1/8 F16). I was surprised to see that even the rudder is "optional". I installed the rudder servo however, but that would be THREE less servos(weight) and wiring, less battery use and most importantly about $280 saved!
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Thats nice to hear, I am on the fence with the ailerons for my project (SM 1/8 F16). I was surprised to see that even the rudder is "optional". I installed the rudder servo however, but that would be THREE less servos(weight) and wiring, less battery use and most importantly about $280 saved!
Old 11-17-2009, 04:59 PM
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Would be interesting to compare weights of the Avonds 1/7th F-16 and the SM 1/8th F-16.
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Kevin, Looking good dude. You been wanting one of these for awhile and it's a beauty. Glad you got one and all went well. What caused the retract Prob. Good to see ya around. Roy [sm=thumbup.gif]
Old 11-17-2009, 09:46 PM
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Kevin, Looking good dude. You been wanting one of these for awhile and it's a beauty. Glad you got one and all went well. What caused the retract Prob. Good to see ya around. Roy [sm=thumbup.gif]
The retract problem was caused by a BVM air cylinder breaking on me...The mains got down and locked apparently before the cylinder broke, thereby letting all of the air out of the retract system...The nose gear didn't get down...I've never seen a BVM air cylinder break before...One of the plastic ends blew off of the metal cylinder...The plastic end looked as though it wasn't properly glued in place...I cleaned all of the parts thoroughly and re-glued the end back on the cylinder using JB Weld...So far, so good!!! [sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Again, I can't stress enough how well this bird flys...With a P-120 it's almost like flying a Barf when up to speed...Loops as large as your eyes will let you get away with, excellent vertical, and as stable as anyone could ask for...One thing that this bird will do that no Barf will do is high alpha without dropping a wing..(Will a Barf even execute high alpha???)...And landings that are so slow it looks like you could pluck it out of the air...As you can tell I'm sold 100% on this plane!!!

Here's another shot of the plane before the missiles and rails were installed as well as another pic of my son and another project...And some full scale F-16 pics to keep me motivated...(As though I really need motivation!!!)

Kevin
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:04 PM
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Hey Kevin, looking good! Are you using Avonds pipe and bypass?

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Old 11-17-2009, 11:25 PM
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Hey Kevin, looking good! Are you using Avonds pipe and bypass?

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Yep, everything as it comes from Avonds...I was a little suspicious of the diameter of the pipe with the P-120 but my worries were never really justified as it works well...In fact, the plane has a very cool "growl" sound to it when you drop the hammer...Low pitched and very scale sounding...

Kevin

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Here's what's next on the building table...With the scale cockpit of course!!!

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Very Nice thread, Congratulations! [sm=shades_smile.gif]
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Very Nice thread, Congratulations! [sm=shades_smile.gif]
Thanks, Bryce!!!...Do you have a layover at the moment???...And I don't mean with one of those babes you're frequently seen with... ...

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Not today Kevin,

Just a late night in the lab right now, but I am being somewhat distracted on the phone, which is causing a bit of a delay.

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Old 11-18-2009, 07:21 AM
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It seems like Avond's machines are all flying very well and are good to handle. I have his F15 and its so easy to handle so....
I used his F15 at an airstrip (asphalt) 130 meter long x 8 meter without any fear... Entering the "earth" so nice, stady and cooool...halted at half of the runway...
But, the next one will be with added alerions to handle low speed and cross winds.
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Kevin,
Take a look at PA's web site before you start hanging stuff off the wings. He as an AD for external stores use.
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What Landing gear setup do you go with?
Old 11-18-2009, 07:09 PM
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What Landing gear setup do you go with?
All stock Avonds which means Robart 630 gear and Avonds struts as well as Avonds tires on the mains...The brakes, from what I understand, are made by BVM for Avonds..They work excellent!!!...Nose gear is also a Robart 630 with a Robart nose strut and Robart tire and wheel..

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Kevin,
Take a look at PA's web site before you start hanging stuff off the wings. He as an AD for external stores use.
THANKS for the heads up, Tom!!!!

Kevin
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Hey Kevin, thanks for posting your info. on the jet. Does it have good controllability at really slow speeds with no ailerons? I think I am going to try mine with no ailerons.............


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