Covering for plans
12-12-2009, 03:45 PM
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Covering for plans
I have viewed and studied the monokote piece done by lomcevek1.
My question, if the GLAD press and seal film is referred to saran wrap with an adhesive can it be used for plan protection on a building board.
Waxed paper recommended, saran wrap acceptible but on the press and seal will it lift part of the plan when removed.
I am not confident myself to try it, but if anyone has had success and would it be cost affective?
My question, if the GLAD press and seal film is referred to saran wrap with an adhesive can it be used for plan protection on a building board.
Waxed paper recommended, saran wrap acceptible but on the press and seal will it lift part of the plan when removed.
I am not confident myself to try it, but if anyone has had success and would it be cost affective?
12-12-2009, 05:43 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
The best stuff I've found for protecting plans is the film that movers use to protect stuff. The last time I moved I grabbed several left over rolls. It sticks to itself which can be a pain, but it does a great job of protecting plans and CA does not adhere to it. I think you can buy it at U-Haul type stores.
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12-13-2009, 07:22 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
I've never used anything other than Waxed Paper to cover plans, and can't see a reason to use anything else. Its dirt cheap, its readily available at any grocery store, the box is easy to store, and nothing sticks to it. A small piece of masking tape at the corners to hold it in place. There's no reason I can see to want anything to adhere to the plans.
Or are you asking about other materials to use for the monokote decal technique using the Press and Seal?
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Or are you asking about other materials to use for the monokote decal technique using the Press and Seal?
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12-13-2009, 07:29 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
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I've never used anything other than Waxed Paper to cover plans, and can't see a reason to use anything else. Its dirt cheap, its readily available at any grocery store, the box is easy to store, and nothing sticks to it. A small piece of masking tape at the corners to hold it in place. There's no reason I can see to want anything to adhere to the plans.
Or are you asking about other materials to use for the monokote decal technique using the Press and Seal?
Brad
I've never used anything other than Waxed Paper to cover plans, and can't see a reason to use anything else. Its dirt cheap, its readily available at any grocery store, the box is easy to store, and nothing sticks to it. A small piece of masking tape at the corners to hold it in place. There's no reason I can see to want anything to adhere to the plans.
Or are you asking about other materials to use for the monokote decal technique using the Press and Seal?
Brad
12-13-2009, 10:59 PM
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Wax paper is a good first choice, however with the conveince of copy machines these days my first choice is clear packing tape over a copy. That way you don't mess up your origional plan. By the way, years ago I had several disappointments with cheap wax paper, so I only recommend Cut Wright wax paper. The glue
somehow seeped through the cheap wax paper. Greg
somehow seeped through the cheap wax paper. Greg
12-14-2009, 11:14 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
The press and seal will work on your plans. It is a little tricky to get it on your plans because of the adhesive backing. It helps to have another person when working with large strips in order to get it to lay flat. But it wont harm your plans. It has stickyness but not that much. I have used it and after a project it will pull off fairly easy. I don't know if it would be a problem if you stored your plans that way for long periods. CA does not penetrate it. By the way I have tried the "monokote 301" method and it works great. The hardest part is keeping a sharp blade and getting sharp cut lines. Here is some photos of my first try.
12-14-2009, 05:31 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
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The press and seal will work on your plans. It is a little tricky to get it on your plans because of the adhesive backing. It helps to have another person when working with large strips in order to get it to lay flat. But it wont harm your plans. It has stickyness but not that much. I have used it and after a project it will pull off fairly easy. I don't know if it would be a problem if you stored your plans that way for long periods. CA does not penetrate it. By the way I have tried the ''monokote 301'' method and it works great. The hardest part is keeping a sharp blade and getting sharp cut lines. Here is some photos of my first try.
The press and seal will work on your plans. It is a little tricky to get it on your plans because of the adhesive backing. It helps to have another person when working with large strips in order to get it to lay flat. But it wont harm your plans. It has stickyness but not that much. I have used it and after a project it will pull off fairly easy. I don't know if it would be a problem if you stored your plans that way for long periods. CA does not penetrate it. By the way I have tried the ''monokote 301'' method and it works great. The hardest part is keeping a sharp blade and getting sharp cut lines. Here is some photos of my first try.
12-14-2009, 11:49 PM
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12-15-2009, 05:44 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
tacx, did you have any residue left from the press and seal? My efforts left a hazy coat on everything that I had the press and seal stuck on. The residue did not wipe off with alcohol. I was afraid to use it as a plan protector for this reason. thanks
12-16-2009, 12:38 AM
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Although not perfect, I've had good luck with wax parchment paper from the baking department at Wal-Mart. I formerly used regular wax paper but now it seems the companies are getting stingey with the wax coating.
12-17-2009, 11:29 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
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I have not had a problem with any residue. Like i said I have used it on plans but not for prolonged storage. I have used it on my monokote and it left no residue.
I have not had a problem with any residue. Like i said I have used it on plans but not for prolonged storage. I have used it on my monokote and it left no residue.
12-30-2009, 06:48 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
Igot a big roll of hardward store plastic film found in the paint isle. Ijust cut what Ineed, and nothing sticks to it.
I also build a magnet building board, which has done wonders for preserving my plans during a build - vitually untouched after a build.
I also build a magnet building board, which has done wonders for preserving my plans during a build - vitually untouched after a build.
12-31-2009, 12:24 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
I am currently using the clear backing from a roll of MonoKote. I was very careful to save a much as could from my last two covering projects. I hope it lasts since I will probably be using more UltraCote in the future and it doesn't have clear backing. I have used the plastic film for shipping pallets, but once I put a pin through it, the hole seemed to open up and allow glue onto the plan.
01-11-2010, 10:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: FIGHTERACEX
Parchment paper, used wax paper for years once you change to PP you will never look at wax paper again.
Parchment paper, used wax paper for years once you change to PP you will never look at wax paper again.
. Does parchment have some sort of coating on it?Mike
01-12-2010, 07:41 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
ORIGINAL: KitBuilder
Where do you get the parchment paper at ? I'm using wax paper and have for years but I remember as a kid it being more waxy. Today it seems CA will stick to it more easily. I guess they cheapening the product like most other things . Does parchment have some sort of coating on it?
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Parchment paper, used wax paper for years once you change to PP you will never look at wax paper again.
Parchment paper, used wax paper for years once you change to PP you will never look at wax paper again.
. Does parchment have some sort of coating on it?Mike
01-12-2010, 11:52 AM
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RE: Covering for plans
I wonder what it would cost to have your plans laminated..
That might be another good option.. put a sheet of laminating film over the plans.. (I have never tried this. Just a thought)
Parchment is silicone impregnated.. good stuff. Great for baking too
That might be another good option.. put a sheet of laminating film over the plans.. (I have never tried this. Just a thought)
Parchment is silicone impregnated.. good stuff. Great for baking too
01-13-2010, 01:14 AM
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A wide roll of parchment is my choice. Hard to find the thinnest though. Don't go for anything marked heavy duty thats for sure. I think I might try a donut store.
Plastic is good too but it relaxes sometimes and you have to keep re-tacking it and it can also have nasty buckles in it from being folded if its that type.
Plastic is good too but it relaxes sometimes and you have to keep re-tacking it and it can also have nasty buckles in it from being folded if its that type.
01-14-2010, 04:06 PM
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Just to waste some time and take some pics ...
pic 1 - parts = LT-40 plans, wax paper, press-n-seal & lite plastic sheet from Home Depot
pic 2 - My LT-40 plans with no covering
pic 3 - plan + press-n-seal
pic 4 - plan + press-n-seal partially removed (no damage to plans)
pic 5 - plan +wax paper
pic 6 - plan +plastic sheet
The best plan visibility seems to be with the plastic sheet, next press-n-seal and then wax paper. The tape that holds the wax paper and plastic sheeting is most destructive thing about coverings. Press'n Seal doesn't need tape.
pic 1 - parts = LT-40 plans, wax paper, press-n-seal & lite plastic sheet from Home Depot
pic 2 - My LT-40 plans with no covering
pic 3 - plan + press-n-seal
pic 4 - plan + press-n-seal partially removed (no damage to plans)
pic 5 - plan +wax paper
pic 6 - plan +plastic sheet
The best plan visibility seems to be with the plastic sheet, next press-n-seal and then wax paper. The tape that holds the wax paper and plastic sheeting is most destructive thing about coverings. Press'n Seal doesn't need tape.
01-14-2010, 04:23 PM
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I use 3m77 adhesive sprayed onto the plans and then wax paper on top of that. The 3m77 holds the wax paper very well and snug against the plans. no visibility problems.
By the way - this eliminates any taping. I leave the wax paper on the plans.
Ed
By the way - this eliminates any taping. I leave the wax paper on the plans.
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01-14-2010, 05:46 PM
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RE: Covering for plans
ORIGINAL: SeamusG
Just to waste some time and take some pics ...
Just to waste some time and take some pics ...
What started as a curiosity factor turned into quite an informative thread.
Thanks to all.
