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Old 07-18-2003, 02:09 AM
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Just finishing up my Morris TopCap and would like the forum's opinion. I have a few OS 46 FX as well as a few OS 50 SX laying around needing a plane. Do you think the 50 SX would be too much motor? I know ... I know ... Said it myself a ton of times ... No such thing as too much motor

However ... I don't want to find myself in an extreme flutter situation with the pull-pull rudder and elevator.

I plan to fly the plane the way it was meant to be flown ... HARD CORE!

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Rick, that OS 50 ain't too much..don't worry about flutter, just run a 12X4 or 12.25X3.75 and your speed will be just dandy and plenty of ooommmph.

Ought to be a fine combo.

(P.S. love the tach!)
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Originally posted by ChuckAuger
Rick, that OS 50 ain't too much..don't worry about flutter, just run a 12X4 or 12.25X3.75 and your speed will be just dandy and plenty of ooommmph.

Ought to be a fine combo.

(P.S. love the tach!)
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Thanks for the advice. I run 12x4 APC props on all my 50 SX engines and it seems to be the perfect prop. The engine - prop - mini tune pipe combo gives me unlimited vertical on planes up to six and a half pounds and allows prop hangs at half throttle on my Kangke Fun 50 (5.25 pounds).

Glad to hear the TNC Tach is to your liking. By far ... best tach in the hobby IMHO.

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I have the 50SX and APC12x4 on my Topcap ARF. No flutter at all, and I've tested it in full power level flight (briefly). I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to "too much"......

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Originally posted by Gary Seeloff
I have the 50SX and APC12x4 on my Topcap ARF. No flutter at all, and I've tested it in full power level flight (briefly). I wouldn't say it was anywhere close to "too much"......

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Appreciate the info. I flew a TopCap a year ago and feel for it big time. Love the fact it will gain altitude in a flat spin. That was with a 46 FX ... the 50 SX should add to the thrill!

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Me and a friend Josh Glavin will be flying a Topcap Kit with a OS 91 tommorow, he has flown is a hundred times and its great, so dont worry...

and were also going to finish mine up with my irvine 53!
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Originally posted by Shortman

and were also going to finish mine up with my irvine 53!
men, havn't we heard that line before !
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men, havn't we heard that line before !
Only about 3 years or so!

Shorty said the CA he used to glue it together fused the termites into the wood, but he already had millions of built-in lightening holes from their handy work. Should go "POOF" when it hits the ground.
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Originally posted by Shortman
Me and a friend Josh Glavin will be flying a Topcap Kit with a OS 91 tommorow, he has flown is a hundred times and its great, so dont worry...

and were also going to finish mine up with my irvine 53!
Great to hear from ya Shortman. I would love to see a pic of the TopCap with the 91 on it ... thats like a motor with a plane attached ... lol

Keep us posted to how your's handles the Irvine 53 ... from the posts below, looks like you have been planning that combo for a while

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Originally posted by Texas 3D
men, havn't we heard that line before !

Originally posted by ChuckAuger
Only about 3 years or so!

Shorty said the CA he used to glue it together fused the termites into the wood, but he already had millions of built-in lightening holes from their handy work. Should go "POOF" when it hits the ground.
Man ... you guys a vicious

How do I become a Pro-Bro Member? Sounds like my kinda crowd!

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I second/third the motion ok'ing the use of an OS 50SX. I've abused my Morris TopCap with the 50SX... with great results.

For some quicktime flicks of this combo in action:
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia...rc_topcap.html

After several hundred flights (~300), full throttle dives did instigate the tail to wiggle: more zap in the fuse behind the trailing edge stabilized that problem.

You'll have a blast with that plane and engine,
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Originally posted by Shortman
Me and a friend Josh Glavin will be flying a Topcap Kit with a OS 91 tommorow, he has flown is a hundred times and its great, so dont worry...
Is that a 2 or 4 stroke?

a buddy has one with a saito .91, mine has a saito .72. Thought about putting my 2stroke magnum .75 on it

Like to see it too!
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Originally posted by jsonin
I second/third the motion ok'ing the use of an OS 50SX. I've abused my Morris TopCap with the 50SX... with great results.

For some quicktime flicks of this combo in action:
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia...rc_topcap.html

After several hundred flights (~300), full throttle dives did instigate the tail to wiggle: more zap in the fuse behind the trailing edge stabilized that problem.

You'll have a blast with that plane and engine,
Juhan
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Just looked at the vids ... you fly just like me. Do the guys at your field call you "dangerous" or "crazy" like they do me?

To me ... there is NO fun found in flying a counter clockwise pattern with an occasional roll or loop.

I start my first snap roll when the plane is 4 feet up from roll out and don't stop doing aerobatics until it's time to land and even then it is usually a harrier landing at almost zero forward flight

Regards!

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Go with the 50SX and the 12x4 APC. I have a Webra 50GT on mine with a 12x4 Apc and it is ballistic. Love these webras!!!!
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I have mine with an Irvine 53- out of sight vertical at just under 1/2 throttle, great idle and very good transition. I'm sold on it!

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I run a 50 sx on my sledge with great results. I use a 12-4 zinger, and that keeps the plane slow, allows the motor to spool up pretty fast, and has great power. I think you will have great results going with the 50 and a topcap. Good luck and happy flying.
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Default 50 SX ... Perfect Choice!

Maiden flew the TopCap this past weekend with the 50 SX ... only one thing to say ... "WOOT WOOT WOOT"

It is a 3D blast. After I get a little more used to it, I can see it doing hard core maneuvers really close to the ground.

So far, I LOVE it!

Rick
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Remember to keep the wheels down on landing! Now, go have lots of fun with your new toy!
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Remember to keep the wheels down on landing! Now, go have lots of fun with your new toy!
Funny you mentioned landing.

Got my first runway rash on the third flight. Brought the TopCap in for a harrier landing and found out the rudder tuchs a LONG time before the tail wheel.

No big deal ... asphalt runways are not for landing ... there just a good place to hover over while other pilots need a place to land

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