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Old 06-28-2005, 09:38 PM
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Default Model Mechanics Rookie Struts

Anyone have an old set of (C-ARF)Model Mechanics main and nose struts they want to get rid of? I'll take a nose retract as well. They don't seem to be selling the old style for the Rookies anymore. My set is getting too old and beat up. I'll take the wheeles and tires as well. I'll pay $$ if any of you have spares laying around..

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Old 06-28-2005, 10:09 PM
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Default RE: Model Mechanics Rookie Struts

can't help u with the mod mechs but here's some that are bullet proof.. i hope to get a set of the mains soon.. [link=http://www.digitech-turbines.com/shop/enter.html]http://www.digitech-turbines.com/shop/enter.html[/link] ...click on landing gear, then Jet-1A
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Old 06-29-2005, 07:29 AM
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Why not just go Robart...?
Old 06-29-2005, 08:23 AM
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Default RE: Model Mechanics Rookie Struts

Hi, I've got a set of the old Model Mechanics Rookie retracts, struts, wheels and brakes that I pulled out of my Rookie. PM me if you're interested: [email protected].

Thanks, Les
Old 06-29-2005, 08:32 AM
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Hi, I'm also have a set of model mechanics retracts that din't use. They never been used. I replaced them with robart instead. You can pm me or email me [email protected] Only have the struts and mounts.

RGS, Alejandro
Old 06-30-2005, 02:33 AM
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ORIGINAL: lov2flyrc

Why not just go Robart...?
because these retract have proven themselves to be ok
i tryed everything on a rookie and kangaroo
it has nothing to do with a robart since robart does not make them like this.
the people who bought them are extremely pleased with the swiss quality.
you schould try some yourself todd[8D]

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Sorry Sandor, no offense intended! Since he was just needing struts, I was wondering why spend twice for a set of MM when he could just replace the struts with locally made Robarts and easily get replacement parts if needed.
Still amazed how many bought the MM Euro gear only to toss them in the can and buy the Robart gear.... Hate seeing people spend their money twice [:@]

Sandor, what size trunion do the above struts fit? Cant make out the sizes on the pic above. May have an application for them... Please email me the dimensions
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Todd

They use a 6mm dia. wire. Some people have turned up a 6mm / 1/2 inch transition piece to use them in other retracts. The originals fit in eurotract trunnions.

I concur with you and having had a set of eurotracts will not use them again.

John
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Ah....Wire attached....
Not going to work for my application []... Dont think they will do DF any good either since his current retracts also utilize a clamp style trunion...
Thanks John!
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Default RE: Model Mechanics Rookie Struts

I don't think everyone on this thread is talking about the same retracts.

swiss quality
They use a 6mm dia. wire
The Model Mechanics retracts which were sold by Comp-ARF for some of their jet kits are made in South Africa. The trunions are machined to accept a 5/8" strut (Eurosport). The yoke on their nose strut is very soft and will not take any abuse at all.


EDIT - [sm=bananahead.gif] - I just figured out that some of you are talking about the Eurokit retracts suggested by daytona kid. Duh!!! Next time I'll read the whole thread!
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Todd

They will work in a clamp type trunnion but you have to turn a transition piece with a 6mm dia. end and the other end to fit the particular trunnion clamp. You can make this piece any length to suit your application. BTW the legs are very nice quality and not expensive.

John
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Todd

They will work in a clamp type trunnion but you have to turn a transition piece with a 6mm dia. end and the other end to fit the particular trunnion clamp. You can make this piece any length to suit your application. BTW the legs are very nice quality and not expensive.

John
we had a bad crash last week where the turbine came of
its mounts, actualy the mounts came of the fuselage of our rookie.now we did not notice it at the start
now the turbine was lower then the mounts so it bended the thrust vector steering in up position.
the thrust (30lbs) was there for sure, it lifted the model off the ground and it made a loop within 2 meters and slammed on the tarmac.
now the oleo,s where ok. the pins made of the hardest steel just bended 90 degrees.

also we are working on new oleo,s , same system but a bit bigger in size and have been "upgraded" to 8mm
for a new project.


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Todd

They will work in a clamp type trunnion but you have to turn a transition piece with a 6mm dia. end and the other end to fit the particular trunnion clamp. You can make this piece any length to suit your application. BTW the legs are very nice quality and not expensive.

John
Understood John, but dont care for the wire joiner method...old school system that is too weak (IMO) for these size and weight of aircraft... Bend and twist way too easily. Fine for smaller stuff....
Old 06-30-2005, 02:00 PM
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Todd i even use the "wire"system on my eurosport
it has 2 8mm stain less pins for the main gear
it has about 1mm of space between the oleo,s and gear
now if it lands to hard ,and i mean really hard you just replace the "wires"instead of the wing
i dont think it is "old school" but still a very good system.
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ORIGINAL: grbaker

I just figured out that some of you are talking about the Eurokit retracts suggested by daytona kid. Duh!!! Next time I'll read the whole thread!
sry gary, your still wrong. the ones i suggested are from digitech, swing-arm type, swiss made.. eurokit are mostly telescopic and from italy i think.
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Todd

Perhaps I did not explain properly. The 6mm dia. section goes fully into the oleo leg and is secured by the grubscrews. The remainder which is diameter sized to suit the trunnion is clamped in the trunnion. Therefore there is no exposed section of 6mm wire to bend.

Hope that clarifies things.

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Todd

Perhaps I did not explain properly. The 6mm dia. section goes fully into the oleo leg and is secured by the grubscrews. The remainder which is diameter sized to suit the trunnion is clamped in the trunnion. Therefore there is no exposed section of 6mm wire to bend.

Hope that clarifies things.

John
anyaway John you schould leave about 1mm "stick out" in case of a very hard landing the 6mm pin will bend.
and leave your gear and wing safe i always use a small rubber o-ring to put in between the oleo and gear.
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Sandor

The "O" ring sounds lke a good idea.

John
Old 07-01-2005, 02:33 AM
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i think the real problem is that most of you fly of tarmac
we on the otherhand have gras and tumbleweeds coming out of our ears and in some cases out of the turbine
that is why we use those oleo,s and a steel pin for protection .

ask anyone who fly,s a Skymaster product
i have a few customer,s overhere and i see them frequently with broken out gears and bended oleo,s from landing on gras.
they are great on tarmac but you have to be extremely carefull landing on gras because of the extended lenght they have ( grippen)
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Sandor

I agree with you there. I have always thought that wire legs work better on grass. If you hit hard and bend them you can just bend them back again. On the other hand wire does not work so good on tarmac as I have found. If you have a hard landing the model tends to bounce up into the air.Grass is quite good at absorbing a hard landing.

John

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