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Old 12-26-2002, 05:35 AM
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I'm building a 1/5th scale S.E.5a (Dynaflite). It calls for a .90 to 1.20 4-stroke. I want to use a gas engine, but the smallest and lightest I can find is a Zenoah G-26 at just over 3.5 pounds. Is there a reliable gas engine that is closer to .90 size in power and weight? I want scale performance - sound - look. I'm afraid the G-26 is too much power and weight.
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The SE5 has more than enough wing for the weight, not a problem , The cowl looks to be big enough to apply what ever muffler that may help with sound, AS for power , Half throttle should fly it just fine, don't have to use full throttle if you don't want to. The one I seen fly used a 120 rcv engine and it flew great. I don't know of any .90 size production made Gas engines, there may be some that converted a glow to gas. But IMO the G23 or the G26 will work great and be reliable and cheap to run.
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I'll Second Jemo's recommendation on the RCS 1.40!

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Probably the most powerful engine in its size.
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The 3W24 may be the most powerful engine for its size, but who needs the multi-bolt prop hub? Just another P.I.T.A.
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Homebrewer: Can you post a photo of one of the 3W24 engines. Seem like I have seem them for sale, but people did not exactly jump at them. Thanks CJ
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I have one and it's great.Yeah drilling out props is a pain,but the motor runs like a bear.I have it on my Creek Katana.Well worth the money and little extra work.
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The MVVS 1.60 seems a perfect match at just over two lbs
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Default Re: G26

Originally posted by Dave Bowles
The SE5 has more than enough wing for the weight, not a problem , The cowl looks to be big enough to apply what ever muffler that may help with sound, AS for power , Half throttle should fly it just fine, don't have to use full throttle if you don't want to. The one I seen fly used a 120 rcv engine and it flew great. I don't know of any .90 size production made Gas engines, there may be some that converted a glow to gas. But IMO the G23 or the G26 will work great and be reliable and cheap to run.
Thanks for the advise. My concern was more weight then power. The S.E.5a will fly more scale-like at a less wing loading which of course means less weight. I was afraid with a 3.5 pound engine in the nose I'd also have to add some tail weight to get the cg right. In my digging around I found that First Place Engines is now manufacturing a 1.3 gas engine that weights 40 oz. To me that would be perfect in size, weight, and power. I'm in email contact with them regarding price and availability. I know very little about gas engines, do they have a good reputation?
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Don't overlook this engine. It weighs 42.4 ounces and the ignition advances the timing for better starts and more power at full throttle. I don't believe the FPE engines have ignition timing advance-a big disadvantage in my opinion.

The 3W-24 is equal in power to the Zenoah G38. It'll turn an 18x10 or 20x8 prop with no problem once broken in.

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If weight distribution is a concern, plan a hatch into the bottom of the fuse just ahead of the tail and mount all your radio equipment there. Not only will it counter the heavy engine up front but it'll give you good physical isolation from the ignition source and short runs from the servos to the control surfaces and be completely hidden yet accessable.
I've done this with two planes that I powered with Maculloch 28cc engines.
One of them was a Balsa USA Phaeton 90 which has slightly more wing area at 1576 sq. inches....but still is close in size to the Dynaflite SE-5. At any rate, the Mac flew this plane very realistically for several years and it's a bit heavier and puts out less power than the G-23 or any other engine mentioned in this thread.
Gas engines are very reliable and easy to operate once you learn a few procedures for proper setup, starting, etc.
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Ignition advance and retard for starting is vastly overrated on small engines like these...If an engine is correctly timed in the first for full power all the advance and retard in the world will not make it more powerful..If FPE chooses to time their engines at less than what is needed for full power, that's their problem..Makes more business for us ignition people to correct it.

Guess I'll have to test my 40 oz G260 with an 18-8 and 20-08...
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rgauthier: Did you find a small gasser for your plane yet? Check out RCIGN,s threads on his futher work on the G26. CaptinJohn

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