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Old 09-03-2007, 04:44 PM
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I HAVE A NEW G26 MOUNTED IN A HANGAR9 P47 / IT HAS A 16X6 PROP TURNS ABOUT 9300 RPM. I FLY ON GRASS. IT TAKES 3/4 0F THE RUNWAY AND STILL NOT AIRBORNE. WHATS UP/ WILL A G45 PROVIDE ADEQUATE POWER OR GO BIGGER / I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT INSIDE THE COWL
Old 09-03-2007, 07:18 PM
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I HAVE A NEW G26 MOUNTED IN A HANGAR9 P47 / IT HAS A 16X6 PROP TURNS ABOUT 9300 RPM. I FLY ON GRASS. IT TAKES 3/4 0F THE RUNWAY AND STILL NOT AIRBORNE. WHATS UP/ WILL A G45 PROVIDE ADEQUATE POWER OR GO BIGGER / I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT INSIDE THE COWL

What's the all up weight of the plane? What's the wing area?
Old 09-03-2007, 07:48 PM
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That's kinda what I was thinking...
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The 16X6 is not enough prop for a G-26. A 17X8 or 18X6 are proven to work well on this engine.

I use a APC 17X8 on my plane and it works well, turning around 8600 or so.
Old 09-04-2007, 01:26 AM
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I agree with rcdude7, get your RPM down with a larger prop, I run my MVVS 35cc gasser at 7000 to 7200, I would say get that G26 down around 8000..

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Old 09-04-2007, 06:38 AM
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Agree with more pitch. My G23 in a PT-19 was a dog with a 16x6, changed to a 16x8 and it was like adding another gear.
Old 09-04-2007, 07:38 AM
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A 16x6 propeller @ 9300 rpm should generate approx. 13 lbs of thrust and a "pitch speed" of 53 mph.

Is your aircraft the 82" Hangar 9 P-47? At the recommended AUW <17 lbs, the wing loading is 33.7 oz/sq.ft., which translates into a take-off speed of approximately 35 mph.

Your choosen prop has too little pitch to provide enough thrust at that speed. Instead try a 16x8 propeller. Engine RPM will be down somewhat, typically you can expect slightly less than 9000 RPM giving a "pitch speed" of approx 65 mph. Because of the higher pitch speed, significantly more thrust will be available at take-off speed compared to the thrust provided by the 16x6 prop.
Old 09-05-2007, 08:36 AM
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Best prop for a g26 I have found is a Mejz 18x6. Don't lug down this engine, let it spin around 9000 static, that is where the best torque is made.
Old 09-05-2007, 11:52 AM
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CHARGER0_6,
What's your total weight fuelled up? My P-47 with a G-38 weighs in at 19lbs even. That's after a glassed and painted it, though. I also fly off grass, but mine takes off within thirty to forty yards. How tall is the grass at your field? With those little stock wheels tall grass could provide additional drag. Go with a graphite Mejz. 17x8 and break in the engine first. Consider one thing also: The G-26 is bottom line in power plants for this airplane. My G-38 is the perfect match.
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I have H9 P47 with a G26 and Mejzlik 18X6. Pulls it around without any problems. Can do reverse and regular Cubans and large loops with it. Using an AbellRc muffler which gives a few additional RPMs. RCIgnitions.com converted to electronic ignition for easier starting. Great flying warbird.
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As mentioned, run a "NON" restrictive exhaust and prop rpm according to this curve, about 9000 static.
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